Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 514 › Conversation 514-009

Nixon, Volpe & Bull on Peter W. Rodino, Jr. and Political logistics

Tuesday, June 8, 1971 · 12:00 PM–12:01 PM ET · Oval Office · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Volpe, John A.Conversation514-009 on Tape 514 (tape position 01:47:32–01:48:47)StartTuesday, June 8, 1971 at 12:00 PMEndTuesday, June 8, 1971 at 12:01 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 514-009 ↗

President Nixon met with Secretary of Transportation John A. Volpe and aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate logistics for an upcoming event involving Congressman Peter W. Rodino, Jr. The discussion centered on the personal nature of the meeting and the potential attendance of a political candidate named Tomas. The participants briefly reviewed scheduling details before concluding the encounter to prepare for the subsequent public interaction.

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All right, so no intercession.
Now, Secretary Volpe.
Yeah, all right.
This is supposed to be very personal.
Very, very personal.
That's the only thing I wanted to bring to your attention.
Two things.
Congressman Verdeo of Democrat New Jersey.
This one, Mr. Secretary.
He's right down to your right, Mr. President.
In your remarks, we have a candidate, Tomas, who is supposed to be here tonight.
Do you like it?
I'll be a walk-out to you, sir.
Yeah.
All right.
I'll be here.
Mr. Secretary.
Well, should we walk out and treat our friend?
I'm listening.
I'm used.
I'm saying it's over.
I'm saying it's over.
I'm saying it's over.
I'm saying it's over.

On June 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and John A. Volpe met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:00 pm to 12:01 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 514-009 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 514-9

Date: June 8, 1971
Time: 12:00 pm - 12:01 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull

     President’s schedule
          -John A. Volpe visit
          -Peter W. Rodino, Jr. visit

Volpe entered at 12:01 pm

     President’s schedule

     Introduction (applause)

The President, Bull, and Volpe left 12:01 pm
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  • 514-010 12:12 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John A. Volpe met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:12 pm.
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  • 004-072 1:45 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 1:45 pm to 1:46 pm.

Conversation 514-009, June 8, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/514-009 (accessed October 12, 2026).