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Conversation: 523-004

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Start Date: 16-Jun-1971 3:41 PM

End Date: 16-Jun-1971 4:30 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Bull, Stephen B.Kissinger, Henry A.Bluhdorn, CharlesEhrlichman, John D.Peterson, Peter G.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:52:19

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:38:54

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523b.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Henry A. Kissinger, Charles Bluhdorn, John D. Ehrlichman, and Peter G. Peterson met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:41 pm and 4:30 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 523-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 523-4

Date: June 16, 1971
Time: Unknown between 3:41 pm and 4:30 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.                             Conv. No. 523-2 (cont.)

     President’s schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:43 pm.

Henry A. Kissinger entered at 3:43 pm.

     President's previous of meeting with Indian Foreign Minister


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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[Duration: 9s ]


     INDIA


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          -Financial assistance
               -Embassy recommendations
               -Timing
               -French and German aid
               -Willy Brandt comments
               -Soviet Union contribution
               -Criteria for aid
               -Money compared with statements
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[National Security]
[Duration: 21s ]


    INDIA


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         -Left wing conspiracy
               -Greece
               -Pakistan
               -Scope
               -Russia and Czechoslovakia
               -Effect

    Nixon image among international leaders

    Willy Brandt
         -Concern with India-Pakistan problem
              -Brandt remarks on US role
         -Hypothetical statements by the President
              -Mexico
              -Nicaragua
              -Poland
              -Czechoslovakia
              -Inappropriateness
         -Kissinger’s meeting with Egon Bahr
              -Registration of complaints
                    -Bahr reaction
         -Contact with opposition political figures
              -Hubert H. Humphrey
              -Left wingers
              -Socialists
         -D. Kenneth Rush
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Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:43 pm.
      President's schedule
           -Upcoming meeting with Charles Bluhdorn

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:51 pm.

     Brandt                                                       Conv. No. 523-4 (cont.)
          -Rush’s view
          -Role in social Democratic Party
          -Christian Democratic Party status
          -Berlin agreement
                -Effect on Brandt political prospects
                -Nature of agreement
                     -US interests

     Financial arrangement to help India
          -Question put by President to Indian Foreign Minister
                -Aid from Germany and France
                     -Joseph J. Sisco comment
          -Worldwide perception of US


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[National Security]
[Duration: 21s ]


     FOREIGN AFFAIRS


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     German politics
         -1969 Election
         -Free Democrats
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     Diplomatic meetings
          -Kenneth B. Keating
          Joseph J. Sisco

Charles Bluhdorn, John D. Ehrlichman, Peter G. Peterson and Bull entered and Kissinger left at
3:51 pm; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Greetings                                                          Conv. No. 523-4 (cont.)

Bull left at an unknown time after 3:51 pm.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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[Duration: 1m 50s ]


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     Peterson and Bluhdorn introduction

     Joaquin Balaguer letter
          -Receipt by Bluhdorn
          -Translation
          -Request for delivery to President

     Dominican Republic
         -Gulf and western interest
              -Sugar company acquisition
                    -Dominican Republic turmoil in early period
                         -Cuba involvement
                         -Fidel Castro
                         -Lyndon B. Johnson
                         -Losses
                    -Changes in Dominican operations
                    -Progress
                    -Bluhdorn meeting with Balaguer
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                      -Defense of free enterprise system
                      -Balaguer
                      -Castro
          -John Yanyelli [?] visit to Dominican Republic
     -Transformation of Dominican Republic
          -Cigar Output
                -Compared to Cuba
                -Soviet Union                                   Conv. No. 523-4 (cont.)
          -Gulf and Western involvements
          -Cigar manufacturing
          -Automotive parts plant
                -General Motors [GM] role
                -Ford role
                      -Henry Ford II
          -Hotel construction
          -Railroads
          -Airport
          -Automotive line
                -James M. Roche
                -Ford
          -Yanyelli [?]
     -Balaguer support for US and Nixon
          -Comparison with support of Castro for Leonid I. Brezhnev

Latin America
      -Chile
      -Peru
      -Bolivia
      -Gulf and Western concerns
            -Sugar situation
            -Expropriation
      -Expropriation act
            -Compensation
            -US competition with Germany and Japan
                 -Japanese government and industry cooperation
                 -Richard W. McLaren
            -Dominican Republic
            -Effect of drop in US competitiveness
                 -Dominican Republic situation
            -Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Julius L. Katz
                 -Comments to House of Representatives
                 -Retaliation against expropriation
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                 -Neville Chamberlain
                 -Katz
           -Need for respect for US abroad
                 -Destruction of Monroe Doctrine
                 -Soviet Union
                 -Subversive elements
           -Reason for Balaguer letter
                 -Sugar quotas                           Conv. No. 523-4 (cont.)
                       -Latin America countries
                       -African quotas
                       -Possible effect
     -Pride in America
           -Bluhdorn Harvard speech
           -Pete Williams
           -Logic of retaliation
           -US achievement in Caribbean
           -Fidel Castro
           -Bluhdorn travels in Ukraine
           -Bluhdorn talk with Soviet Union Generals
                 -Johnson
                 -Aleksei N. Kosygin comments
           -Czechoslovakia
           -Poverty in Ukraine
           -Motion picture production
                 -Sergei Bondarchuk, Director of Film
                       -Background
           -Situation in Ukraine
           -Achievements in Dominican Republic

Expropriations
     -Expropriation Bill in House of Representatives
           -Punishment of friends
           -Peru expropriation actions
           -Need for US competitiveness
           -Opening of Japanese markets
           -Business perspective
           -Balaguer
           -Effect of bill on other countries
           -Nature of House's action
                -Katz
                -Response to State Department pressure
                -President’s recommendations
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                     -Foreign lobbyists actions

     Sugar
          -Reduction of sugar quotas
          -Sugar cuts on other countries
               -Effect on domestic manufacturers
               -Questionable increases
               -Administration view                              Conv. No. 523-4 (cont.)

Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:51 pm.

     President’s schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:28 pm.

     Sugar
          -Reduction of quotas
                -Mexico
                -Brazil
          -President’s view
                -Support for the Dominican Republic
                      -State Department’s view
                -Position towards other countries
                      -Peru
                      -Bolivia
                      -Chile
                      -Mexico
                      -Brazil
                      -African countries
          -Sugar lobby
                -Effect
          -Brazil and the Dominican Republic
                -State Department position
                -The President’s view
          -Treatment of expropriating countries
                -Peru
                -Bolivia
                -Chile
          -African countries’ role
                -Sugar production
                -Problems
                      -European concern
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                 -David D. Newsom


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[National Security]
[Duration: 8s ]                                                        Conv. No. 523-4 (cont.)


     AFRICA


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           -Expropriation and relationship to Export-Import Bank loans
           -Senate and House efforts
                 -Executive leverage
                 -Effect of lobbyists
           -"Handling" of State Department
           -Appreciation of President's help
           -State Department compared with Congress
           -Expropriation problems
                 -John B. Connally
                 -Peterson and Connally efforts
                 -Other countries and expropriation
                       -Compensation problem
                 -Effect on investment
                 -Connally
                       -Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries [OPEC] and US liability
           -Message from President to Dominican Republic President Balaguer
                 -US position
                       -Congressional activities

Peterson left at 4:28 pm.

     Presentation of gifts
          -Cuff links
          -Gifts for wife
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           -Wedding of Edward R.F. Cox and Tricia Nixon Cox

Bluhdorn and John D. Ehrlichman left at 4:29 pm.