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Nixon & Mara on Family and Sports

Saturday, July 3, 1971 · 9:56 AM–9:57 AM ET · Oval Office · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Mara, SusanConversation536-012 on Tape 536 (tape position 02:11:23–02:13:26)StartSaturday, July 3, 1971 at 9:56 AMEndSaturday, July 3, 1971 at 9:57 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 536-012 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417178417 ↗

President Nixon placed a brief congratulatory call to Susan Mara regarding the recent birth of her family's tenth child. During the conversation, the President inquired about the gender balance of the children and jokingly encouraged the parents to have an eleventh child to complete a full football team. The exchange concluded with lighthearted banter regarding the President's preference for the Washington Redskins over the New York Giants.

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On July 3, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Susan Mara met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:56 am to 9:57 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 536-012 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 536-12

Date: July 3, 1971
Time: 9:56 am - 9:57 am
Location: Oval Office

The White House operator talked with the President

The President talked with Susan Mara between 9:56 am and 9:57 am

[See Conversation No. 6-122]

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to his daughter.
Yeah.
Hello?
Yes?
Well, how are you?
Which one are you?
Number five?
Number two, great.
Well, I just called to congratulate your mother, father, and of course all the brothers and sisters on this.
Number ten, huh?
Isn't that great?
Now, you tell your dad when he gets back and your mother that, uh,
He's got to have one more to make that football team, you know?
And this is a little girl or boy?
Little girl.
How many are girls and boys?
Oh, this puts the girls ahead.
You're really about to have a tie.
I see.
Well, that's great.
Are you a Giants fan?
Well, I'll tell you something.
I follow the football team so closely.
When I was in New York, I always followed the Giants.
But down here, I've got to root for the Redskins now.
That's a good team.
Well, you tell them that I called and just congratulate them.
I did?
Okay, bye.
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  • 006-122 9:56 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Susan Mara talked on the telephone at 9:56 am.
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Conversation 536-012, July 3, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417178417). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/536-012 (accessed November 2, 2026).