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Start Date: 27-Jul-1971 10:36 AM

End Date: 27-Jul-1971 11:03 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Chamie, Alfred P.Conn, NormanWilliams, James B.Colson, Charles W.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:17:37

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:45:43

547a.mp3

547b.mp3

NARA Description:

On July 27, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Alfred P. Chamie, Norman Conn, James B. Williams, and Charles W. Colson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:36 am to 11:03 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 547-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 547-5

Date: July 27, 1971
Time: 10:36 am - 1l:03 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alfred P. Chamie, Norman Conn, James B. Williams and Charles W.
Colson; members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Introductions

     Arrangements for photographs
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Conn and Williams left at 10:37 am.

     The Vietnam War
          -American Legion’s position
               -Chamie’s speeches
                      -Vietnamization
          -Casualty figures for the preceding weeks               Conv. No. 547-3 (cont.)
          -Public perception
          -US troop withdrawals
          -Vietnamization
               -South Vietnamese Army
                      -Laos
               -North Vietnamese Army
          -Prospective settlement
          -South Vietnam
               -Upcoming elections
                      -Opposition to Nguyen Van Thieu
                            -US role
                            -Duong Van (“Big Minh”) Minh
                                  -Chamie’s opinion
          -Possibility of a cease fire

     The American Legion
          -Tasks of the National Commander
               -Speaking engagements
               -Official travel
                     -Chamie’s tour of Israel
          -Resolution on Israel

     Israel
              -US military support
                   -The Suez Canal
              -Richard M. Helms visit
                   -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] report
              -Golda Meir
              The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
              -The President’s opinion of Israelis
                   -The Suez Canal
              -The coup in Sudan
                   -Egypt
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The American Legion
     -Chamie’s official travel
         -Taiwan, Republic of China [ROC]
               -Meeting with Chiang Kai-shek
               -Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr., Gen. Lucius DuB. Clay, Jr.
               -Korea
         -Political influence
               -Philippines                                   Conv. No. 547-5 (cont.)
         -Philippines
               -Ferdinand E. Marcos
               -Economic situation
                      -Compared to the US
                            -Belgium, Switzerland
               -Marcos
                      -American Legion support
                      -Advisors
               -Manila Chamber of Commerce
                      -Economic ties with USSR
               -President’s view

US initiative towards the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
     -Announcement
     -Chamie’s opinion
     -Perceptions
     -Effects
     -PRC United Nations [UN] membership
            -US policy towards Taiwan

The American Legion
     -Forthcoming convention in Houston
          -Possibility of President’s attendance
                -The President's prior commitment to attend the Veterans of Foreign Wars
                      [VFW] convention
     -Resolution on the China issue

PRC initiative
    -Kevin P. Phillips article
           -Briefing
                 -John A. Scali, Henry A. Kissinger
           -Public perception
           -US stance
    -Chamie's comments to Legionnaires
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     American Legion convention
         -Invitation to the President
               -Prior VFW commitment

     The US film industry
          -John B. Connally
                -Tax reform                                            Conv. No. 547-5 (cont.)
          -Jack Lemmon’s (?) statement
                -Regulations
          -The President's California background
          -Efforts
                -Foreign films
          -Compared to the television industry

     The President's schedule
          -July 29, 1971 visit
                -American Legion's Boys Nation group
                      -The President's afternoon Congressional event
                      -Timing

     The President's PRC trip
          -Press entourage
               -Jim O'Neal of the American Legion's magazine
                      -Accreditation on trip
               -Limitations on group size

     American Legion Convention
         -Possibility of the President attending
               -Effect

     Presidential gift

Chamie and Colson left at 11:03 am.
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