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Conversation 554-002

TapeTape 554StartWednesday, August 4, 1971 at 12:27 PMEndWednesday, August 4, 1971 at 1:43 PMTape start time00:50:45Tape end time00:58:13ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Butterfield, Alexander P.;  Ziegler, Ronald L.Recording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On August 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:27 pm and 1:43 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 554-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 554-2

Date: August 4, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:27 pm and 1:43 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield and Ronald L. Ziegler.

     Press conference
           -Economy

     Busing
          -Ziegler recent press conference

     Press conference
           -Economy
                 -Unemployment
                      -Compared to early 1960's
                 -Arthur F. Burns
           -Busing statement
                 -August 3, 1971
           -Spiro T. Agnew
           -Economy
           -People's Republic of China [PRC]
           -Length of conference

     President's schedule
          -Action papers

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 1:43 pm.

           -Economy
                -Significance as issue
                -Wage and price freeze
           -Foreign issues
                -PRC and Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
                -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
                -Berlin
                -Vietnam
                      -Forthcoming press conference
                           -Ziegler’s possible comments
                                 -Negotiations

                                      -Critics
                                            -Seven points
                                            -Le Duc Tho
          -Economy
               -Wage increases

     Instructions for Ziegler
           -Forthcoming press conference
                -Wage increases

     Jobs legislation
           -Congress
                 -Clark MacGregor’s office
                 -Need to stay in session

Ziegler left at an unknown time before 1:43 pm.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Good stuff in there.
That's about all we can say.
It's amazing, you know.
It's amazing, yesterday on the, you know, busing statement, they asked Gary, you know, didn't come up.
They didn't ask about it?
Not a thing.
Not a thing.
I think they just didn't want to...
I think there's a little, you know, it takes...
Probably more guts than some of these guys have to raise a question like that.
Right.
That close to a president.
They just hesitate to do that.
And maybe a good heart.
The economy.
The law of the law.
You can't follow up.
The economy's a story.
Under the National Fund.
I'm pretty sure we didn't come out for a wage price.
Mark, well, you covered that at the end and made that absolutely clear.
We would consider it, but I haven't seen it.
Well, it just didn't work.
And there was meat in there on the China-Soviet thing, salt.
Berlin.
Well, so I...
The other thing, which...
When the record of history is shown, it'll be found wanting on...
It'll blabber.
It'll blabber.
Just wait and see.
They'll make something go on.
And if they ask me that, I'll just say, I'm not going to go down to the President's Center and tell everybody.
I'm not going to go on what they said.
Because I thought we'd just bail out and see if we got a hell of a record here.
I did love having the overriding one of the bastards said he had five and seven points.
Why haven't they talked to me about that shit?
It's killing me.
Well, it's wholly an economic thing, basically.
The other point that was very strong was the expression about the recent wage increases and also looking at them on a case-by-case basis and using the influence of this office.
you know, to deal with it.
Yeah.
Each one.
That's right.
I want you to take one in your hand.
I suppose.
I believe that Congress should stay in session.
Should not go home, should stay in session.
We'll run nine sessions until it gets out in the emergency.
The plan, the bill, which provides hundreds and thousands of jobs, is ready to be traded.
This is critical, particularly on the law enforcement of teenagers looking for work and will not be able to work later.
It would be irresponsible for the Congress to recess and go home.
or have a rage.
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