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Nixon & Bull on Press relations and Souvanna Phouma

Thursday, September 30, 1971 · 2:50 PM–2:54 PM ET · Oval Office · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation582-005 on Tape 582 (tape position 00:27:38–00:29:23)StartThursday, September 30, 1971 at 2:50 PMEndThursday, September 30, 1971 at 2:54 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 582-005 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417179053 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed the presidential schedule to coordinate upcoming meetings with Souvanna Phouma, Sir Alec Douglas-Home, and Southern Democrat Congressmen. Nixon directed Bull to restrict press access and photography, specifically ordering that he not be photographed with these guests. Instead, he instructed that photographer Oliver Atkins take individual photos for distribution to minimize time constraints and eliminate unnecessary press contact.

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On September 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:50 pm and 2:54 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 582-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 582-005

Date: September 30, 1971
Time: Unknown between 2:50 pm and 2:54 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with Souvanna Phouma
                -Press photos
                      -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
                -Time
          -Meeting with Southern Democrat Congressmen
                -Arrival
          -Phouma
                -Length of meeting
          -Meeting with Sir Alexander F. (“Alec”) Douglas-Home
                -Press photo
          -Press photographs
                -Ronald L. Ziegler
          -Press
                -Photo opportunity
                      -Phouma
                      -Douglas-Home
                           -Atkins
          -Meeting with Congressmen

The President and Bull left at 2:54 pm.

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Yeah, I'll get, uh, where it says hold.
Okay.
Uh, we're going to be very tight in time now.
There will be no precipitous monocle.
We've got to quit all that acting and get the hell out.
And I just, I put in back to 3.30.
Because these congressmen are not here tonight.
They just are getting their cabins and arrangements.
They're arriving now at the right time.
So not a problem if we get 3.30 in the last half hour.
And also the same with Hume, there'd be no press fiction.
Just don't get one.
I see.
Because of the time.
Unless Hume...
Well, just tell the program that I just think we just don't need any pictures or anything.
We haven't got the time.
There's no compromise.
I don't want anything with him for any reason.
He has to have one.
He can have one with you.
But I really don't want one.
Let Ollie take a picture of each.
He can distribute what they want.
And get them out.
All right.
Thank you very much.
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Conversation 582-005, September 30, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417179053). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/582-005 (accessed November 12, 2026).