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Start Date: 5-Oct-1971 3:27 PM

End Date: 5-Oct-1971 3:49 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Vicites, Joseph L.Holt, Cooper T.Colson, Charles W.White House photographer

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:24:29

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:49:10

585a.mp3

585b.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Joseph L. Vicites, Cooper T. Holt, Charles W. Colson, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:27 pm to 3:49 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 585-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 585-4

Date: October 5, 1971
Time: 3:27 pm - 3:49 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Joseph L. Vicites, Cooper T. Holt, Charles W. Colson and the White
House photographer.

     Salutations

     Photographs

     Veterans Foreign Wars [VFW]
          -Organizational meetings
          -John B. Connally
          -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                -VFW position

The photographer left at an unknown time before 3:49 pm.

                -The President's position
                      -George S. McGovern
                      -Soviets, Chinese
           -Resolutions
                -VFW's 1971 national convention
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)          Conv. No. 585-4 (cont.)



          -Southeast Asia
                -Support for the President
                      -POWs
                              -The President’s policies
          -POW dinner
          -POWs
                -Thomas E. (“Doc”) Morgan
    -Upcoming VFW event
          -Possible attendance by the President
    -Membership
          -Numbers
                -Importance
                -State commander, North Carolina
                -Vietnam Veterans against the War
                      -VFW response
                -Politicians
                      -Republicans, Democrats
          -National Convention
                -Vietnam veterans
                -World War II
          -Average age
                -California
    -Possible foreign travel
    -Assistance programs
          -Vietnam veterans
                -Drug addiction
    -Support for the President
          -Economic program
          -US policy in Vietnam
                -Edward M. Kennedy
                -McGovern
                -Michael J. Mansfield
                -The President’s view
    -Vicites
          -Political affiliation

Forthcoming Presidential campaign in 1972
     -George Meany
          -Support for President’s policies
     -Edmund S. Muskie, McGovern, Edward M. Kennedy
     -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)              Conv. No. 585-4 (cont.)




     People's Republic of China [PRC]
          -Announcement, October 5, 1971
                -Henry A. Kissinger's schedule
                -VFW’s position
          -US relationship with the PRC
                -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
                -Japan
                -Southeast Asia
                -Importance of contacts with communist countries

     The President's conversation With Andrei A. Gromyko

     Dwight D. Eisenhower silver dollars

     Support for the President
         -Raymond A. Gallagher
         -[Forename unknown] Lombardo
         -Morgan
                -J. William Fulbright
                -Uniontown
                -George C. Marshall
                      -Virginia Military Institute [VMI]
         -Daniel (“Chappie”) James, Jr.

     Gift presentation
           -Presidential cufflinks
           -Presidential paperweight
           -Eisenhower dollar

     Veterans Administration [VA] hospitals
          -VFW’s view
          -Donald E. Johnson

     Presidential golf balls

Vicites, Holt, and Colson left at 3:49 pm.