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Nixon White House recording on Economic Policy and Labor Unions

Tuesday, October 19, 1971 · 1:45 PM–11:59 PM ET · Oval Office

Participants[Unknown person(s)]Conversation596-022 on Tape 596 (tape position 03:25:33–03:26:28)StartTuesday, October 19, 1971 at 1:45 PMEndTuesday, October 19, 1971 at 11:59 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 596-022 ↗

President Nixon consults with an associate, likely John Ehrlichman, regarding the management of labor relations and economic policy during the wage and price control era. The discussion focuses on securing commitments from labor leaders to curb inflation and maintain stability, despite the challenges of ongoing negotiations. The participants also deliberate on potential administrative appointments, specifically discussing the suitability of Robert Ellsworth for a role within the administration.

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3:25:33But on the other hand, John, there isn't any, I mean, John, there isn't any question, in my view, the thing you've got to accept is that, look, we've got meaning, and we've got the top five labor governments of the United States on the line, assuming responsibility for mitigating some of these racist, or, you know, or, or, or,
3:25:53Now, that's going to make a difference.
3:25:55So, maybe it isn't going to be a 3%, of course it is.
3:25:58Maybe it isn't going to be a 5%, of course it is.
3:26:00But it isn't going to be 20.
3:26:01Now, that's going to make all the difference, right?
3:26:05Yeah.
3:26:06Yeah.
3:26:07Right?
3:26:09And we got this.
3:26:10Yeah.
3:26:12We better get it done.
3:26:15Oh, I agree.
3:26:16Well, we haven't got it all planned yet.
3:26:18They all accepted.
3:26:20I know it's...
3:26:25I threw another name at the bay.
3:26:27I don't know what it is, but he really probably wouldn't like it.
3:26:30But another name I threw at it, when that other one comes to us, but he'd be very useful, could be Bob Ellsworth.
3:26:38Ellsworth is very intelligent, you see, but he's not the best banking firm.
3:26:43And he's very close to Scranton.
3:26:45He and Scranton are very close to Scranton.
3:26:49And whether Bob do it or not, if it happens to happen,
3:26:54for our own love, but the name just occurred to me because I had seen him yesterday on the matter.
3:26:59But to put him down on the back of your mind, that's just impossible.
3:27:03But, but, but, but, but, uh, he's an easy strong man.
3:27:06I'm glad his friend's gone.
3:27:08He's, he's a decent fellow.
3:27:09He's a, he'll work my job.
3:27:12All right?
3:27:12They all crushed us, and the weather, or all on the other side of the time.
3:27:19Okay.

On October 19, 1971, unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:45 pm and 11:59 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 596-022 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 596-22

Date: October 19, 1971
Time: Unknown between 1:45 pm and 11:59 pm
Location: Oval Office

Unknown people met.

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The unknown people left at an unknown time before 11:59 pm.
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Conversation 596-022, October 19, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/596-022 (accessed September 28, 2026).