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Nixon & Ziegler on Foreign aid and U.S. Senate

Saturday, October 30, 1971 · 11:20 AM–11:21 AM ET · Oval Office · 49 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation609-010 on Tape 609 (tape position 02:22:34–02:23:20)StartSaturday, October 30, 1971 at 11:20 AMEndSaturday, October 30, 1971 at 11:21 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 609-010 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler held a brief meeting to address the aftermath of a recent Senate vote concerning the foreign aid program. The discussion focused on the political implications of the legislative defeat, specifically noting the roles played by Senators Hubert H. Humphrey, Edward M. Kennedy, and Edmund S. Muskie. No further actions were recorded during this one-minute exchange.

Foreign aid
U.S. Senate
Hubert H. Humphrey
Edward M. Kennedy
Edmund S. Muskie
Legislative strategy

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NARA Description

On October 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:20 am to 11:21 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 609-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 609-10

Date: October 30, 1971
Time: 11:20 am - 11:21 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

     Foreign aid program
          -Previous Senate vote
                -Hubert H. Humphrey
                -Edward M. Kennedy
                -Edmund S. Muskie

Ziegler left at 11:21 am.

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I'd like to point out that there have always been small parties in strong opposition.

They've always voted against it.

The thing is, there's a total desertion of the Democratic leadership.

The company voted against it.

Did you notice?

On Tuesday, he was saying on the... Now he turns around and says, this is a terrible thing, get them out.

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609-008 11:16 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:16 am to 11:19 am.
609-009 11:19 AM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:19 am and 11:20 am.
609-011 11:21 AM · 46 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:21 am to 12:07 pm.
609-012 12:07 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:07 pm and 12:09 pm.
609-013 12:09 PM · 32 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:09 pm to 12:37 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 609-010, October 30, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/609-010 (accessed November 14, 2026).