Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 621 › Conversation 621-020

Nixon & Bull on Donald H. Rumsfeld and H. R. Haldeman

Saturday, November 20, 1971 · 10:45 AM–10:50 AM ET · Oval Office · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation621-020 on Tape 621 (tape position 02:25:10–02:27:10)StartSaturday, November 20, 1971 at 10:45 AMEndSaturday, November 20, 1971 at 10:50 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 621-020 ↗

President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to review administrative and scheduling matters. The discussion focused primarily on the scheduling of Donald H. Rumsfeld, with H. R. Haldeman referenced as a point of contact. Additionally, the pair addressed concerns regarding the press coverage surrounding the President's children.

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Position in tape: 02:25:10 – 02:27:10

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On November 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:45 am and 10:50 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 621-020 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 621-20

Date: November 20, 1971
Time: Unknown between 10:45 am and 10:50 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     Donald H. Rumsfeld's schedule
         -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

     The President's schedule
          -Children
               -Press coverage

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:50 a.m.

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I think you're right because he's been involved.
But he should not be, I shouldn't be either.
But maybe Hayes, because somebody who knows the details.
Well, there's no reason.
Well, let's see, yeah.
Or I could come in and...
I have a private chat.
Let's just work it out.
If we have a private chat, you can interrupt your slogan.
after the picture okay but i think mr president that this event yesterday goes to me i don't think you can get any mileage for this behavior i think these people have no background that was an excuse i thought i think
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  • 621-019 10:45 AM · 26 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:45 am and 10:50 am.
  • 621-021 10:45 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:45 am and 10:50 am.
  • 621-022 10:45 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:45 am and 10:50 am.
  • 621-023 10:45 AM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:45 am and 10:50 am.

Conversation 621-020, November 20, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/621-020 (accessed November 8, 2026).