On November 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Clark MacGregor, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:53 am to 12:17 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 625-024 of the White House Tapes.
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Yeah.
I want to tell you that we've got a great deal of possibility on that.
Anyway, before the Congress came to the clock, and now this, of course, creates problems for Mr.
because they'll, uh, they'll, uh, they'll see that the, uh, they'll take the whole thing into account, too.
On the other hand, I have, uh, I, I've heard, I'm convinced that I have no choice but to be told, in other hands, to look at it, if for no other reason, if for no other reason, because I didn't, it would totally disarm my recall back into the fog.
And that's another reason.
The second point is that,
If we are going to be doing it, I think the thing to do is not to get caught in it, but to let them know right away so that we start getting them to attack us.
At least this is a terrible example of a snatch.
But also, what's the responsibility on the Democrats for foreshadowing the attack?
The third thing is that this will require massive effort on the part of your people.
And, uh, to get along with these Democrats and say, for Christ's sakes, don't listen to me, don't believe God, and have this bill, and not say anything.
And, uh, I, uh, I, uh, this is my word for Satan, for Christ's sake, and for God's sake.
It'll be the straight-out one thing, and I, uh, for Christ's sake, and for anybody who wants something to say today.
This bill will pass the beginning laws of the business community on American political life.
It will be cut.
That's what they've got to realize.
And that is not a good thing.
It's not a good thing for that group.
It's a concrete.
My hope is far beyond.
in these stories towards money and they just forget it from now on why how did i create that yeah i heard about that
I said, that means that for the last time in this country, we may have a situation where no president will receive a majority vote and will not have a majority mandate.
Well, they will catch some of our previous colleagues from the long-term service.
We reflected it for a while.
They'll see that the tax bill is in danger.
But anyway, they believe it's in danger anyway, so we just let them have it right in the chops.
I didn't do it.
It's a big, big portrait of us, right?
So, be proud of us.
Well, it, you know, like science goes away, you know, don't hold political science for too long.
It's really, it's a, we have, we, they're, they, I call them like wickers.
Very, one of the few exceptions.
Most, most lives are not in the organization.
And they work.
That's right.
Yeah, I saw that one.
One of the things that's a very good point.
Yeah, right.
All right.
Well, you have to be the way you are.
That's right.
That's right.
Okay.
Well, this is not something I'm very good at.
I'm not going to change this point.
I'll get it in here.
The markets are, because of, and I do probably, in this instance, a combination of things, where we can start to see the economy was, had a lot of over-strengthening, and also the international practice, because that affects things, and you can't have all these meetings going on until it's kind of settled.
So that makes the gold wires, the rest of it, when you're on the ground.
They have to adjust.
They have to adjust the heaters.
All right, son.
Thank you.
I use it as the start of the second paragraph of the president's reference.
I would say, instead of a limited library, you suggest that it wasn't mined.
Uh, he was, he was destined to be mined.
He didn't get it with him.
By, by, uh, uh, a lion.
But by encouraging the period, a lot of the period, to concentrate on the presidential candidate selection of the general delegation of the private sector.
That's the good point.
It's all right.
Isabel, I would like to take your last sentence here at the top of page two and put it immediately after the preparation for the political party.
Sorry, Senator.
Would you like to start this year?
I don't know.
I'll put that right after the preparation for the political party.
Thank you, Senator.
I said yes to the Jack Kennedy and so did Harry Truman.
The
The question is, govern effectively.
And it's generally considered.
I remember as a member of the Judiciary Committee of the House, when we consulted with constitutional experts throughout the country, they felt that a president ought to get at least 40% of the votes.
And this sort of an idea will produce probably 35% presidents.
Maybe you can't be quite as standard.
I don't know.
Mr. President, I'm going to ask you to govern effectively.
How about we run a real danger, but you know, keep up with us.
We'll enjoy it.
Very seriously run.
We run very, very seriously.
Now.
I think, I was, I think I would like to see something that would possibly
With regard to the fact that I, President, I don't want to leave the impression here that we're going to let it be proven instead.
I want to explain something to the effect that the President believes that the
A responsible tax relief bill is announced today.
It's announced during this session of Congress.
And the intent is to
Master, where are you?
I'm sure they're going to push me on that.
So that I don't give away what would be the big gun that you, that we're talking about you firing after three to three is to indicate that I'm not going to, but I know the president feels strongly about his tax proposals that, uh,
There are several steps down the road.
I'm not going to speculate about what the political process will be, but the President believes that the Congress can and should act responsibly.
And the President is going to take whatever actions.
And I think it was...
And I can say that this Congress must not adjourn.
I believe this Congress must not adjourn until it has passed a responsible tax relief bill, which will, a responsible tax relief bill,
What is recognized as a highly partisan political profession
which has not had any errors, and so forth, should not be allowed to jeopardize this.
Actually, we just want to say thank you.
But you have to let it go.
I mean, you have to go out and do it.
We can't.
I think it's going to change.
All right.
Thank you so much.
We're going to break up this slide.
Thank you.
California to be sure.
Thank you so much.
We've got three hours this morning to make the point of what you decided this morning.
We'll pin that for this morning's meeting.
I told you, you didn't have to talk about the return.
That's not what you're... Perhaps there's not going to be any more of that.
No, I told you last week I'd probably go back.
Sorry, Mike.
There was... You've not accepted it.
And I didn't mean it.
Because I am.
Because I knew this certainly might come up.
Good luck, Mike.
Thank you, sir.
I think it's the right time to do it.
Not stock market now.
It's up 14.
We're down 14 now.
That's all right.
We'll go from there.
Go up.
Like this?
Well, it's sort of a miscommunication.
Yeah.
Now, they're so timid up there.
They'll say, oh, they're just going to be doing tax notes.
That would be what they're going to do.
I'm sorry.
Wasn't wanting to make you sorry.
I was absolutely loyal to you.