On November 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Robert H. Finch, Herbert G. Klein, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:06 am to 11:05 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 626-007 of the White House Tapes.
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President, how are you?
President, how are you?
Yes, we're here.
Yes, we're here.
Yes, we're here.
Thank you very much.
Do you hear that?
Do you hear that?
Do you hear that?
Do you hear that?
Do you hear that?
Do you hear that?
Yeah.
simply our problem.
We have an economic policy, or have this economic policy.
The tour partnership is where we ought to be.
That's the end.
We ought to find out what it means, how to get to that.
The mechanism that goes down that path is the State Department.
They have to make some decisions as to what it means on the back of the military, sailors, and the search artists.
I'm saying, if your partnership is the goal, I promise how it means to get there.
And you've got that word in the air, and you can give us a report, too.
It's not a very good group, I'm sure.
Well, you know, here's what's happening on the searchers.
We had a deal made on them.
That's what we have.
It's psychologically more desperate than that.
My state department's approach about commodity by commodity is, I think, just too time consuming.
We've got to go globally.
And all over the world, I think we lose the initiative.
So I don't think it's back.
I think it's worth considering, even though there are legal problems, to not reduce
against the balance of trade, the balance of names of all our world, which is mostly Mexico and Brazil and so on.
Canada is either just flatly with 5% or eliminated.
They're not all supreme, but I mean, this is the after issue.
They say the time is not the end, but we've been
We're playing our part.
Why do we get taken to the table?
They're not the problem anyways.
It's the tradesmen.
We can quickly remove it all from there.
And actually, our intention is to do so.
If the European thing comes to a dead end, we'll do it.
But if the European thing is able to make some progress, we'll do it at that time.
And, uh, I would say it's, you know, what?
Maybe it's 68 or 50.
We're all going to be out in 60 days.
That includes the Canadians and all the others.
How's the Canadians coming back?
Well, actually, Mr. President, we're supposed to deal with the Canadians.
We are holding them all so that we can let the Europeans first, and then the Europeans refuse.
We're going to be in the spring, in the spring, in the spring.
We're going to be in the spring.
We're going to be in the spring.
We're going to be in the spring.
But I just think it's really the actual reasoning of it by itself.
It's a kind of peace without it.
It would be awful to talk about it in your view, but it's also a matter of the reason why that happened.
I think we have to go both ways.
All right.
No, we do.
We just pass the word.
We haven't told.
We haven't told.
that I'm terribly concerned about.
Where's your team at?
I just know that Brazil is the best living group that makes a doctor work.
I mean, it is.
They encourage the private sector, and they're growing like a sun.
I think you can just relay them and shield them, basically.
You know, it's beginning to move.
I don't see it in sight.
Of course, it's just the city, but the roads.
They're coming after them.
They've got a sense of purpose in there.
You know, there's these men who just wander around without anything.
They're not a man.
They die.
They always were on the ocean before.
But it's really going.
Yes, sir.
Venice is doing well.
They like Venice.
They like Venice.
They really do.
that you can't do expropriation there.
It's not a great concern.
Military, of course.
But they've got good people.
They're top and second.
They're low people.
Good.
Good.
If they're crisis, they're going to change it.
Foreign Minister, I think that at least he appears to be a very good man.
Oh, he's great.
Very good.
He is a great man.
For us, you know, the State Department senators are always very negative about breaking up.
President, first of all, I suppose, first of all, I agree.
They're really excited because you don't have to do that.
It's a place to be.
It's happening.
I don't want to bring it up.
You just... You'll do it.
Yeah.
I'm going to put the thought in.
I'm going to see the woman next year.
We said you should do it tonight.
I said, yeah, I thought it was a little bit of a trap.
You can tell them, right?
Otherwise, it'll be a whole thing.
We'll come up to Brazil.
Yeah.
Well, I think it's the best entry point, Henry, in terms of the nature of the partnership they've worked in.
They took care of a lot of things.
They gave green prices over the way to go.
And just, you know, they've got a sense of purpose and mission.
They think they're dominant.
It's just, it's tremendous.
And they've been good at the end of it, I think.
They've stayed up there.
They've been active in the Air Force and all over.
Tell me about the U.S. territory with Argentina.
The first year, I understand, has concerned him a lot.
He's just over the hill.
Sorry, he's a good friend of ours.
Yeah, I don't know if he stood with us.
Yeah, I know you.
But he just, I mean, I don't know what's going on in that country.
We've been out on a boat trip with the president and his team ministers, and they just, they just like that.
I mean, I don't even know.
But you see, he's a decent guy.
He's sick now, but he's...
But, um, the license doesn't track.
It's not, you know, it's just, you know, it seems to have that person attached to it.
I don't know.
It's just, it's just.
They deal mostly with the deputy chief of mission.
I don't know whether you got that report, but it's a dinner for you to which my cabinet members were invited to get that report.
Yes.
They were all going to turn it down.
The news they called it because they didn't want to be in this lodge.
What does he do, then?
He sits there.
He's got a gun.
Comes up and says,
The thing just bursts out the song and they say it in a raw black tie in a different direction.
He just sang the song and I refused.
I mean, I just, I mean, he, uh, you know, his songs in the 20s and 30s, uh, zombies, you know, they're just very senseless to how they're perceived, how they are, how they react.
There's no light.
They don't let it know.
They cheer.
That's what they look like.
They didn't want to come.
The point is that they are so close, and they want us to bring cash into old Christ right now.
And they're trying to work out a program so they can get some financing for me, and all of our institutions.
And now, two years.
People have moved into Finland.
But the drug was his right.
We can't do that now because that's where the preparatory drugs will be.
You'll be in security conference.
Does he need the job?
Yes, sir.
He doesn't have any money.
He's insecure right now.
Oh, Christ.
Isn't that awful?
For one thing, God, is it just as healthy for us to tell you about it now?
He, you know, he's loyal.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my.
I know this.
I've talked about it all the time.
Great.
That was the beginning of it.
Yeah.
It's incredible.
That country is just, I'm more concerned about that country than I am Peru.
What about that country?
That country is, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Let's see.
Well, you know, we can all argue a little bit.
There's differences in things.
We're not going to be able to go through that one with Spain, before we send it back to Spain.
You know, if you look at the, if you look at, if you're out in Asian countries, you know, something like, kind of done too poorly by Australia, some of ours here,
Besides, we can't move it out of Australia until after the end of time.
Oh, I didn't feel it.
I didn't think of that.
Well, it's related to what I was going to say about Belgium.
Maybe some European country can work something like that down there.
No, sure.
But we can land in Brussels with that nature of that.
Yeah, that'd be easier, but...
Who the hell are we trying to get rid of?
Kennedy still doesn't answer.
He doesn't do it.
Yeah, Brady, will he take it?
Well, the last thing is important.
I've heard this before.
God damn it.
It's just ridiculous to have to do that.
We got that.
It was most heartbreaking last year.
It was pretty good.
We got a terrible one in Australia, too.
It is not critical here, just because it should.
All right.
The people of Argentina love their approaches to us.
They didn't come to us individually.
their crisis is within the next year, and it's an economic, it's a political thing.
I like talking to, like, the Treasury people about, you know, all of that and all this, but they say that the next year will tell a difference financially, and it means a difference politically as to whether we've got a real economic impact.
Let me see.
Jeff is doing the same job, that little boat you bring out, I mean, he's going to visit.
He has French, you know, that's what I mean.
His view is that Satan's probably not lasting on Marsh.
Yeah, he's not lasting.
That's his view for the commercial license.
The commercial license will undo it.
How in the hell did that happen?
It never happened.
But the commercial license will undo it.
But they can't survive because of the canyon problem.
They're keeping our total control of the canyon problem.
And they've tried to, but now it's what one should accomplish.
Maybe he can tell them to get after us.
It's a wonderful country.
It's a beautiful city.
If you think about it, if you were to do that economic plan up here, you're about to put an effect.
You could say, there are people who talk to us who can take place on a large basis, and they can sell it, and they're meeting things.
They're asking, they have to pay.
They're always needing $200 million or $300 million to pay for it.
All right, so what is the situation?
You talked about the State Department channel.
My hair is with you.
Yes.
What's your evaluation of the State Department?
They make the State Department still repeat the old things.
and you've got two or three geek ambassadors, the others are foreign service types.
Basically, we were on this graceful, and they almost broke down on us, and we sat down, and I was with the graceful people, and said, God, I think we could settle it.
We did it, so.
I mean, that's accountability here, but I mean, the Caribbean had no idea about how the business people, what their orientation was, and that's what's great about this whole issue, the juniper problem.
I think we have to make some kind of a temporary negotiation with those four countries in the regional agreement until all of these conferences agree.
I don't think that's going to be
And that's the argument for trying to make a temporary settlement so that we can
The issue is whether we are willing to pay the fees, the licenses.
Defense wants to, on a temporary basis, defense wants to put it in escrow.
And they won't accept it on that basis.
And that's really what it comes down to.
What is there anything you can do other than just leave that channel somewhere here, sir?
We should put you in a wheelchair or something.
I mean, it's very close to your heart.
Another problem, Mr. President, is how hard it is to know what people are willing to do, whether they want to, whether they want to, whether they want to go back to the people to protect you back.
They would have paid more than about a million and a half dollars earlier this year to buy in some licenses.
I mean, I have confidence that putting one man on this, you know, who's as tired as this does this, could do something.
I think it's farting around too much.
Well, anyway.
I think we can settle this then.
Yes, sir.
The floor is...
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
That's where that compromises our security decision in the second act.
All right, all right.
Well, let me ask this.
Do we have this in the MSC system?
I suppose we have, because after all, you don't think you've got a really strong enough team in this rank.
Well, I think we can sense it in this case as a detainer.
We don't know how it's back kicking ass if it's going, what do you think?
I can do it.
The detainer's got all this support.
Conley's no brother from this one.
The danger is that if we don't do it, they're going to go to the Lord of the Seas Conference and thank 200-mile territorial waters, which would sell the issue once and for all.
And I thought they only thanked fishing rights or certain natural resources.
But they don't thank the PN and the other classes.
There are other countries that want the 200-mile territorial waters.
You can tell them all that yourself.
Well, there's a person under me.
He was great.
He said, you know, back in 1960 at the Lawless Peace Conference, the United States and the Russians were together unless he was a delegate.
He said he was in one vote to have everything settled in 12-mile-an-hour.
And he said that the United States didn't realize it.
They didn't push it.
And so we didn't get the guy to have it settled in.
So here it hangs over our people all these years.
And I think that would be interesting.
I think this is his curtain.
He's going to sign it.
Do you think it would be worthwhile for you and Herb to have a private talk with George Bush?
I think it would be nice.
George is very attractive to me.
He goes into it all the way.
You can tell him anything.
He's speaking communism.
I don't know what the hell we're going to do with this man.
But David still made a contribution.
He was given the job in 1910 to have as much as he can.
And Spaniard knows how to drive because somebody didn't ask him first.
So they don't want a silver car.
Well, they don't want it.
I don't want it.
But I want a good man to go there.
That's a good job for somebody.
That's the statement, too, then.
Excellent.
And very important, now with the transition coming along, the crews have been cohabited.
I was going to say that.
Henry, on this fishing, do you think that he tried to fish himself before?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Is it bringing it back constantly?
There's a question.
More money for everybody.
Yes, it does.
I'm not sure at this point.
I'm not sure how our team will handle it.
But it's got that technical aid.
It starts to follow up with their oil market.
It's got that technical aid.
It's got the fact that there's some of these health things that they're only saying about the agricultural government.
Ecuador is an amazing world.
We could certainly help on that.
I wonder if we don't need a stronger man.
He's a wonderful guy.
He's old and tired.
So, let me ask you this.
Who was the best semester you saw?
Mitchell Starr?
No.
Who's the next governor?
He's a career guy, Burns.
He's through.
He had a good report.
How about George?
He'll be back.
I would say he'd be very effective if George was going to hang up.
That's wrong.
I told you again, I did.
I got a totally different report on Singapore and America than for Reagan.
Reagan thought he was wonderful, and I thought he was some jackass.
I think it's purely because one, I don't know, Reagan did, I don't know.
We're going to transfer the guy, I guess.
He's a little off his time.
Well, on these ambassadors, Latin American, I think one thing is just about creating ambassadors down there.
I think that would help.
An ambassador represents America.
And we are, we have a tendency to put people down there.
I think the people are the ambassadors down there.
They just want to know.
And the people that are known to be close to the president, that's one tremendous advantage to watch.
Practicing a lot is going to be perfect.
He's expanding.
He's my close friend.
You know, it goes out.
But what doesn't matter is that maybe he's a little off.
He's just a clown.
He just doesn't think he's an older man.
He wants to be the star.
And he wants to be the star of your life.
He's a boy.
Yeah.
He's a boy.
Yeah, I don't think so.
I guess so.
Yeah, it does.
Well, one thing that, uh, you know, it's happened often a lot is that, uh, they knew that we'd known you a long time, and they, uh, do things that, you know, think of, uh, all these people in the state are pretty amazed how much time they want to talk and how much they do, and, uh, I think it would be helpful if we had somebody to hand the message to them.
Well, uh, this is the big thing right now.
You're, you're, you're a person.
Yes, I am.
That's right.
And they understand.
If you don't get that, it's safe.
If you don't get that, it's safe.
If you don't get that, it's safe.
If you don't get that, it's safe.
If you don't get that, it's safe.
If you don't get that, it's safe.
If you don't get that, it's safe.
If you don't get that, it's safe.
And that's .
I want to really build that up, and basically, as our consultation with Latin America, a huge part of that is you want this series of meetings which happens here, which is an historic series, despite the criticism, I guess, through Latin America.
How could we get it in series and so on?
Everybody agreed.
But you know, we stopped it then.
Over a period of a month, we would meet.
First with the prime minister, then with the British prime minister, and then with the...
I don't know if they either got it or didn't get it.
He's right in front of Trudeau.
Did you hear the other swinger?
Did you hear?
Did you hear?
No.
Rose, I did, you know, I met her there.
I did very good for her.
I just come back from there and see her put them on that list.
We can make that happen.
Oh, well, there's a beautiful, beautiful Assistant Secretary for Natural Resources coming.
That's right.
He doesn't get to sit back.
No, he doesn't get to sit back.
He's sitting next to Al Swarmer.
He's sitting next to Al Swarmer.
We've got to strengthen the ambassadors.
We've been all around this track.
I didn't advance one by one.
We want top-flight able ambassadors.
Now, the Spanish language isn't all that incomplete.
We put them in the damn school, and they can learn Spanish language.
And I don't think those people there care that much about it.
You know, large sticks of testing to tackle the Spanish.
That's the same investment.
I remember one of the best ambassadors we ever had on my side, I must say.
He's a guy that never, never, never spoke a language.
Of course, he did a lot of smoking shit.
He was the most grueling son in the whole community.
He tried to speak any language.
Never.
He sent us.
You can get our people, but you can take a lot from a woman who has a dress like this.
Right.
But that's just that.
Now, in addition, though, you get to put your strength in the working group.
And I see no reason why you might not be able to put a bottle into that thing.
on the working group.
What do you think of that?
I think it's a good idea.
And, uh, you know, it's kind of worth the price of me going to the working group.
Let's get the damn thing off his ass.
Listen to me.
Also, I'm not good at massacres.
I didn't show that something happens for his own.
The one thing that will happen is the result of your trip, even though it's going to happen anyway.
Just consider it's going to come off.
uh the thing is however we've got to do it in our own time and so forth and we have a plan the next thing is whether we can go any further in terms of providing time for our lab at this point we can do this sunday and we can tell the groups with us
I have said over and over again, God damn it, they're going to be in the military when sold in Latin America.
Let them be American.
And that church is not on this side.
Well, they'd really prefer it back there.
Well, sure, and they're going to buy it anyway, and they've got to have them.
They've got to have them.
The king has got to have some clothes.
We know they're going to take them and they're going to use them, but they've got to have them, right?
But you can't have them, Lieutenant Governor.
No.
You've got to have them.
I've got the point across to you.
I trust the health state in this.
I favor military governments.
I mean, I run them personally.
I am fair.
I am not supposed to.
I favor whatever government can run the dominant country that is friendly to the United States.
The rulers will always be, no matter your name, speechless.
For example, what about the Greeks?
And what about this and that and the other?
The point is that our core policy is based on this.
We would prefer that other countries
have governments that meet our standards of democracy.
However, if we were to put that as an assistant to the condition of foreign aid, we'd have to cut off eight to three-fourths of the countries in the world.
Our main concern, however, in the view of a foreign policy, is not that government's attitude internal toward
problems.
We're concerned about those things.
But it's external policy, as it affects us.
Now, you've got a democracy.
Oh, you've got a democracy in Colombia.
They can't just call it Colombia.
But they can't just pass it apparently.
And not for Colombia.
The same events are going on in Brazil, which has a dictator that runs this country well and treats us fairly.
I'm for them.
And that's true of Greece.
And that's true of Rhodesia.
We have the one damn burger bar here.
That's what we're going to do.
We have the one that we're going to present because they're always chatting about so-called torture in Brazil.
So, first, a burger is going to have a gift symbol background where it's not going to have that before the president.
But we agreed, for example, to help him put together some press with Medici, to put together a background for gifts, and then we got reception for the museum set.
And then the Mexican, the press secretary, who's really kind of a rioting carpet, he gave dinner for the message.
He wants to get a lot of work on the shoot, and I agreed to help him there.
Oh, yes, sure.
Well done.
He was so flattered by that phone call.
And he wrote over to his foreign minister, who was on the interstate thing.
I don't know who it was.
James Perry, the National Observer.
And the reference to an alert, so he just, he just rolled off.
He's a great guy.
First of all, he's in the Philippines.
His wife is in the Philippines.
Mexico's doing well.
No, sir, economically, they're suffering.
Of course, essentially, he's a great guy.
He's a part of the research.
He's working on something else.
Psychologically, the first thing that I can tell you is that my husband and I are not interviewing our family.
And ours is starting to go up.
Well, and they can keep.
But they're the ones that are really screaming about the research.
Well, I think as I see this, we did very well.
We ought to be sure that all the military salesmen strictly stepped up so that we control every one of those sales.
Our military people are stronger and better than most people.
Third, I think we've got to increase our diplomatic representation.
Now, in terms of having people go down there,
It's probably all right.
It's probably right if you've had a good reason.
We found some things probably too.
We have press conference.
Well, maybe you need to have a reading of the big papers.
Me or I are not sure what's going on.
You know, the biggest things, papers, and they're likely to have to buy range of things.
We've got footage where it's, you've got to, or I can see, you know, that's where they don't care as much as they should.
That's one other problem, you know.
And the Latins, when they come here, are so distressed about how safe this is from attitude.
Paying a third or fourth day, and then do the first day.
It's a big country.
But my point is that down there, it's very dangerous.
What?
Yeah.
You know, attention is what they want, attention, attention, love, and care, and how easy it is to get to that.
Peru is another very good example of that.
They have pictures of, this is Mexico all around,
They knew that Bob had been courting the earthquake thing.
Yeah.
And we found that a number of countries are all watching through because they claim they got a new tactic.
Do you believe we should continue to treat them for getting after the trees?
I think we should.
We're trying to piss on the intelligence we talked to.
We saw them, Henry.
Do you think they're all watching?
Mr. President, they have the great advantage of a national rivalry with the children.
of the leftists are very much afraid of the Chinese revolution.
They're reacting.
Yes, they're reacting.
They can't help it.
So they can't be accused of being American soldiers.
They nationalized the IDC.
And nevertheless, they're acting just as close.
It's directly our interest to keep them out of trouble.
Everywhere you go in that country, it's all Pacific script.
We sign these agreements for everyone.
He would go off and make extraordinary gestures that amazed the St. Mark people.
I mean, they'd come out on the porch to greet us, and we'd hear him.
I mean, I just wanted to show that I had courage.
They think that Castro's getting under arrest by L.A. And they seem to talk about it.
The only thing our attitude towards them should be, well, that they're tight, they say, well, in Cuba, in Cuba, but they say, well, how do you say you take your position by them?
What about Chile?
Chile's attitude toward us, not their attitude toward their own people, for instance.
Their attitude toward us is very different.
How do you find someone toward a pastor on the ODS?
Yes, sir.
I think that's realistic.
But again, they always think that because we could at some point, whether it's search or whatever, we would like to have a chance to get our input.
That's why we're here.
I want to hear what you have to say about the search artists and everything else.
And they say, well, is that going to change for us to do good?
Is that going to change for us to tell people?
That's, you keep saying, well, that's because of Castro's attitude.
That's because Castro's keeping it on his knickers.
Well, that's a different problem.
That's the reason why it's not.
What is the situation?
There's a lot of interesting, and it's not realistic.
I figured Mexico, Brazil, a lot.
The fact is, you know, the Chinese treaty, the change in the market, well, that's not realistic.
And we tried to explain to them, well, it will be 15 years from now.
Well, it's not now.
We tried to knock down the overkill.
They're gonna come back and say to me, I'm reading the story there with the rest of the Americans, thinking they're gonna have 10, 15 million dollars in the tree.
And Morty's, Morty's the answer to your question.
Do you think he's ever done it before?
Well, it's nice to hear that.
It's nice to hear that.
It's nice to hear that.
It's nice to hear that.
It's nice to hear that.
It's nice to hear that.
It's nice to hear that.
It's nice to hear that.
Or he didn't finish the whole thing, I suppose.
No, well, I, uh, why don't you think, Henry, maybe we, maybe even the Latin thing, we could have a little more travel down there, you know, that I, I, we don't want any more nations or Europe, this, or Africa, or, at this point, for very fundamental reasons, before the Russian summits are in place, that are concluded, but not about the way they want to be.
I don't know if we're doing that.
Yeah, the Jewish people are being interested.
I think he's out of his mind.
What do you think?
In Ecuador, particularly in Rio, they had things planned, and we had a problem with that.
We were there right at the, you know, the emotional time with the two of us.
Gary hadn't had the paper to come.
Yeah, they hadn't had it.
They all went to the soccer team.
They all went.
They all went.
They all went.
Who else?
Just to show how, you know, they never answer because they don't think that Roger's reading is a damn thing.
That U.S. News interview came out, and here's a whole new thrust of foreign policy.
Never once mentioned Blackburn.
Not once.
That's where you go if you hear about him.
You don't care about us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, who, uh... Well, he was a funny pop, too, wasn't he?
Yeah, Gordon.
Well, he was doing a thing with the idea of a foreign policy.
Yeah.
He might have done it somewhere else.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Well, that's right.
But on the other hand, he ought to take a trip to Latin America.
God damn it, that's Africa.
Yeah.
Well, it makes a good idea.
I still would vote me on this as far as we're concerned.
Let me ask you.
It makes a good idea.
We're sitting at a safe, for Christ's sake.
We could have some help.
It's too much like Lincoln.
My God, I mean, the number of rapes in Los Angeles.
Send a man to Tijuana and pay him here.
Or those Tokyo police just knock him off.
He's gonna screw around.
I think it's safe to go to Mexico City, Brasilia, Norway, Peru, Portugal, and Argentina.
Those three places.
I think that's safe.
I don't think so.
Colombia.
Colombia, I can't say.
No, I can't say.
I don't know.
I don't know what this is.
Yeah, I know.
I was going to say, it's nice and way to prove yourself.
Go on.
Go on.
I'm looking for a character.
Maybe now.
Maybe between the two.
Or we might want to miss him.
He could better be on or he could be let down.
So he's having to report it on the trip.
And report it on one trip and himself on the other.
Well, you've got two things today that I consider.
You've got the Darien Gap thing in Lake Jane, where all Kansas states are going to come.
And you've got September, as I understand it, the next year, the 150th anniversary of Brazil yesterday.
Now, that's for the campaign time, but that's all that the state goes into in place for the states are going to be in a lot of our countries next year.
So that's where the group also is, right?
We must think of a good man for that 150 of you.
How many of you have a show?
And we're still having a big one.
How many of you?
About a hundred.
A little less than that.
That would be bigger than we are in the end of the century.
And all the price will rise to that.
And that growth will be
I was really amazed at the precision of it because I had the reporters down there and they always come back and talk about the mud and things of this kind.
They've got these super highways that have no signals, big buildings, open spaces.
I tell you Bill, I would trade that State Department, that 4th and 3rd where they gave us that big lunch for just foggy mud over there.
Boy, that is a gorgeous building.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One of our problems, whether we're going to have to sell that or whether we're going to give it to an interesting cultural thing.
We're going to have to learn about the form, their form of history.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Our history is good, too.
Well, Steve, you had to sell one.
Yeah.
You had to bring it.
Yeah.
The form of history is huge.
Very.
You want to do this.
Well, he made a point to do this thing.
Maynard wants to do it.
About 12,000 publishers and things in Rio.
And he had the guys at Paz and all these people.
They didn't ever get to deal with that.
Copy that.
Are you a study?
That's a whole big thing.
Well, how do you think that you continue to venture the working group on this thing?
I don't think we ought to quit.
I think we ought to quit.
Yes, for being nice.
But avoiding that, Henry, what do you think?
I'm tired of having chefs who don't ever represent the United States.
I think, Mr. President, that there's almost no area to go where personal relations matter more.
And secondly, where manliness is respected more.
And you get these guys who are sort of nice, and you're selfish.
Yes, sir.
I'd put him in the hell out of there.
One of the reasons Hill has been successful in our hands, especially, is that he's, as you know, Bob Hill has his weaknesses we all have.
But God, he's all-saving.
Right.
And you have to think about it, you know, he's the one who's fighting, and they want that, too.
Right.
God, we've got a real opportunity here, you know.
We could put a new ambassador in Spain.
We could put a new one in Argentina.
I think we've got to move Josh to Argentina.
How about moving him to Colombia?
It would be hard there, couldn't it?
I just don't know about Colombia.
This is a hell of a way of talking about a guy that could just come in.
No, I don't know.
I say I don't know.
I don't know.
I think the European post should be better.
I think in the brothel, if you keep doing what the state's done, they won't like it, but what the hell can they do?
But it's also a step up in his life.
Because we should have.
Yeah.
I mean, he loved it.
He's a big saver for him.
He's got to be able to do something against it.
No.
No.
I mean, beyond a certain point, you just can't do it anymore for a following.
You really can't.
No.
You've got to do this.
You really need some money here.
There was one other thing.
We had, Bob had a lot of these.
We had the poor resource people who were really quite good.
I mean, that Bertrand Steinfeld was awfully good.
He'd come up with a little kit that we could use with each one of those cars.
But why don't you mention the Polio thing?
Well, for example, we had a hell of an organization.
They said, can't you just worry about smallpox?
They did it in Western Australia.
They did it in six other reputations.
You think if I come back, I'll blow you.
He's a whole other kind of spirit.
Including another?
Of course, including another.
But when you just said another, it's the United States.
I said that as a goal.
I said it as a serious problem.
We said that about in four or five years.
We can't do it with one of those.
They have a program.
Why not both of them?
All right, let's do it.
Let's do it.
And other things like this.
We're going to do the thing along the way.
I know, but if you could just say a few things.
My God, that's big enough.
One other thing I want you to do, I want you both to go up and talk to Rock and Roll.
He was afraid of riots and so forth.
My answer is that you ought to say that I have told you that I want you to go in action.
I think that the Rockwell thing didn't point out that Rick DeWitch was making it.
We've got to show something happening as a result of this.
They keep bringing it up to that degree that nothing did it.
Well, this turned out to be a good exercise.
It turned out to be a good exercise.
It emphasizes the personal touch that I need for it.
I had been thinking, you know, with you lying down there, you know, being interested, but I can't do it.
I take a week, and I haven't got a week.
I've been a, you know, a month out.
You know, in Russia, there's no room for one thing.
But I must say, I do think Bill, or perhaps,
I was there when he started.
I don't know if it helps, yes, but it just helps if we get nice.
That's the kind of thing we can do.
The lady didn't want to go to Mexico.
Yeah, well, if they weren't in Mexico, I'd have to come to Mexico City.
Mexico is the big neighbor of the arts.
It's like Mexico City.
It's free-siding.
The bill ought to do something, huh?
I think so.
And actually, Mexico City is the good way to do it.
It's passing into approval.
Well, you might do this.
The two of you, I think, also.
I think it's something that comes directly from you.
You should talk to them.
And Dr. Mike Hedlund said he was going to be doing something in the lab to be very, what do you think?
That he could do something, that he could get a good reception.
So another thing I think, Mr. President, in Mexico in particular, you really have a potentially reactionary muscle for the derrick cat.
So you could go to the derrick cat, excuse me, or I could go after the, between the two derricks, you could pop down there.
Well, the derrick cat, we've seen before,
Go ahead.
The point I was trying to make is that, you know, I watched that show a long time from St. Aves, and I thought that your major change is taking place, which is kind of modernizing your politics.
I don't know if you read his campaign, if you've ever seen it.
Yeah, he ran for the Capitol.
Yeah.
And when he's gone back out to every one of these, he's gone to every one of these states, and he mentioned that.
He's gone back out to the same places every day.
Follow our politics.
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
And I think Mexico more than any other country, in terms of politics here, has a bearing on those, because Mexicans in Los Angeles, a lot of them went to Mexico, and Ecuadorians went to Mexico and Ecuador.
Mexico, Mexico, and all those towns, I'm saying.
And I think that's what helped Kennedy so much.
When you sit down with this group of people, whatever it is,
SRT group, sit down and get quite specific, get quite specific as to what we can do in terms of business, in terms of actions to be taken, in terms of programs, in terms of, you know, in terms of, you know, in terms of, you know, in terms of, you know, in terms of, you know, in terms of, you know, in terms of, you know, in terms of, you know, in terms of, you know, in terms of, you know, in terms of, you know,
If you want me to file a formal report with you, then that'll happen.
Right.
And it's good that you said your area is friendly.
Medici is friendly.
And the Argentine is.
You can build a lot more strategy next week.
You can build this up as a classic example of how your policy does work.
And I think you can.
And if you can, you know, keep it as you said, it's a dynamic and concentration.
It's great.
It's an artist country in that way.
I'm an old friend.
Well, I'm an old friend.
They're very proud.
In a finer sense.
Yes, they are.
They're proud, too.
In fact, in World War II, they were really on the ground.
They walked down there.
They walked down there.
They were very proud.
Yes, they were.
They were very proud.
They stayed, too.
I mean, I think there's just so much that's coming.
Whatever plan, whatever plan we can gather and just follow through.
Well, the other thing they want to do is, for all of us, we need to sort of test out the way we're going to stand in the camera or something with him.
That is so important.
Just to walk out of the way.
Just to walk out of the way and throw you there or something.
They're all fighting for the back side of war.
They're much interested in the heat.
And Bob's talking about, you know, when he got what he had done, they all had to leave.
People have meetings scheduled at the time.
It's not very easy to do something, but the time will be a second.
But we're going to need it.
We're going to need it.
Well, anyway, you know, good luck to you.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I haven't talked to him since we got out, so I had to get on the talk point and ask for his, who gets together and talk about it, but I want to talk about California before I get this Chinese thing on this thing.
It's just right, right?
He's right.