Nixon, Ziegler & Sanchez on Federal pay raise and Press relations

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All right, just two quick things, sir.

First of all, I think you can't come up with a signal that matters to some of the guys that you want to deal with.

I'm going to solicit no questions.

Thank you, Professor.

Thank you.

Now on the form of D thing, I'm going to

I restate very strongly the position of all the people that should set an example would be the federal employees.

Of all the people who should not get something more than the private sector, it should be the federal employees.

This is what the president's had in mind.

He feels that way very strongly in relation to the farm.

He has changed his opinion about that just because of the vote yesterday, so I'll be equally firm on that.

You know, the federal employees getting the pay raise, I think I'll be asked about that.

Well, I'm not going to say you're going to veto it, but I'm not going to shift off of your position.

In other words, I would be, in my statements, I would be strong.

I've talked to him.

say that the five and a half should run through the year.

You've got to state that.

You've got to start back at five and a half and have it come through the year.

He's not prepared to.

I talked to him about that.

He wants to say today that we're against it.

Right.

Yeah, and refer to the unions in Cincinnati.

Look, here are unions in the private sector.

In other words, to put the federal law.

President, this is a very unwise position.

Right.

An unwise position.

In other words, simply because, you know, the federal employees, there aren't that many of them.

There's a hell of a lot more.

We talked about that.

I don't think he's ready.

I'm going to refer to that preliminary report.

I mean, it's all right.

I got it.

I've come to try to stick it in, but the Congress has already played too long in the action of these fundamental provisions.

He is a Congress muscle major.

He has actually, he has actually stated that he believes that he has conquered the special election.

He believes that the public support for this program is so great for the

We're going to go out at 3.30.

And I'm going to announce the details, and then he's going to take questions about the China thing.

I guess not India, Pakistan.

I think yesterday played fine.

So I'm going to, you said to freeze them out.

I'm going to call both of you point Bradley today and have them

Strong talk with him on a couple other things that we've been doing.

They didn't break any deal that I had.

We never at any time said that the person...

I didn't know one way or another, but my posture throughout the thing, and no one else wrote it, was, we'll tell you when he leaves and we'll tell you on Sunday.

See, what they did, and they have a tendency to do this, and this is what I'm going to call them on.

They, in their mind, put together the event in Chicago that had already been announced.

And they concluded on their own that because that event was announced that they would, you know, stay it that way.

And that's what they're going to call it.

It seems to me it's not really their stuff.

Their purpose really is to...

discredit everything you do if you're doing it because of a crisis?

Well, I think CBS has a tendency to be the herald examiner of the networks.

Maybe that's a bad example, but the more dramatic type of reporting.

I don't think that that, first of all, was on any of the network evening news shows.

It was on a radio report.

It was not damaging at all.

But I just don't like them to do it.

I don't like them to do it.

We're going to keep the hole, but the number end totally.

I'm not going to tell them the number of people that go over there, because that's still in the ocean.

Right.

And the Chinese, I think, want to go in.

Don't they?

They really want to be here at all.

I mean, we want to have them.

The only thing I've said to this point is the final details have not been worked out, but I'm sure it will be less than the amount that normally travels, just to get them in condition.

I've referred never to a number or anything, and won't.

How about the...

I guess the four mini-suns are having to be planted right now.

I think so, yes sir.

We don't know if they can make out of that.

Very well, fine.

Henry made that point on Air Force One and I think he'll make that point.

So what do we have to do?

Oh well, they never hit you.

Yeah, that's the end of the story.

I'm sorry.

The architect is reading about your policy, and he's calling the signals.

And, uh, what he has said, not, uh, the, uh, the assurance that he's going to support the president.

And it ain't awful.

And I love you, and I'm sure it's more than I tried to read by this newscast.

Of course, I don't have anything to say.

I don't know what to talk about.

It's all back to you.

Did it talk to you?

Locking down.

This seems to be one of those... ...successes.

It seems to be some kind of repressed... ...disturbance.

It's already that.

It's... You do not stand a chance.

In this case, you're off on a... ...flying trail.

President, Secretary...

...I will go too far, sir.

Just...

The British are a killer of crap.

I'm afraid it's hard to merge and possibly fuse.

i don't know where it's coming from but it's uh i may get asked about that because of the newsweek thing

Okay, okay.

Nixon, Ziegler & Sanchez on Federal pay raise and Press relations

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