Conversation: 642-037
Prev: 642-036 Next: 642-038Start Date: Monday, January 3, 1972 5:18 PM
End Date: Monday, January 3, 1972 5:32 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kauffman, John W.; Morris, Stephen M.; Hahn, Jack A. L.; Cole, Kenneth R., Jr.; Cavanaugh, James H.; White House photographer; Bull, Stephen B.Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 05:17:48
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:31:42
NARA Description:
On January 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John W. Kauffman, Stephen M. Morris, Jack A. L. Hahn, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., James H. Cavanaugh, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:18 pm to 12:32 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 642-037 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 642-37
Date: January 3, 1972
Time: 12:18 pm - 12:32 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John W. Kauffman, Stephen M. Morris, Jack A. L. Hahn, Kenneth R.
Cole, Jr. and James H. Cavanaugh; the White House photographer was present at the beginning
of the meeting.
53
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Introductions
Photograph
Cancer Bill
Photograph session arrangements
[Photograph session]
-The President’s interview with Dan Rather, January 2, 1972
Health care
-Health Bill
-National health insurance
-The President’s proposals
-Support for the President
-Election year
-Edward M. Kennedy Bill
-Socialized medicine and compulsory health insurance
-The President’s opposition
-Present system in US
-Improvement
-Elliot L. Richardson's work
-Budget
-World situation
-Socialized medicine
-Great Britain
-US health care
-Quality
-Availability
-Cost
-Insurance coverage
-Health Bill
-Quality compared to quantity of care
-Kennedy Bill
-Analogy to French Revolution
-Cost
-Medical profession
-American Medical Association [AMA]
-Hospital administrators
-Change in health care system
54
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 642-37 (cont.)
-Present system
-Delivery problems
-Resources
-Cost of living indicators
-Services
-Quality increases
-Kidney dialysis
-Price freeze
-Medical unions
-Wage demands
-Price freeze and Phase II
-Effect on hospitals
-Cost of Living Council [COLC]
-Possible meeting with Donald H. Rumsfeld
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:18 pm.
The President's schedule
Bull left at an unknown time before 12:32 pm.
Health care
-Present system in US
-Costs
-Possible meeting with Rumsfeld
-COLC
-Pay Board and Price Commission
-Minimum wage of hospital workers
-Compared to national rate
-Job classes
-Geographical differences
-Arizona
-Nurses
-Salaries
-Job market
-Utilization of Registered Nurses [RNs] and Licensed
Practitional Nurses [LPNs]
-Aid to doctors
-Legislation
-Duties
-Doctors
55
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 642-37 (cont.)
-Aid of nurses and medical technicians for secondary duties
-Rural hospitals
-Armed services
-Medical corpsmen
-Wages
-Quality of technicians
-Armed services
-Medical corpsmen
-Vietnam
-Recruiting for hospitals
-Operating rooms [ORs]
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 6s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
*****************************************************************
-Medical technicians
-Medex [sp?] program
-Richardson
-Merlin K. Duval
-Cavanaugh
-Liaison with White House
Presentation of gifts by the President
-Cuff links
Kauffman, et al. left at 12:32 pm.