Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 642 › Conversation 642-038

Nixon & Bull on Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr. and White House logistics

Monday, January 3, 1972 · 12:32 PM–12:36 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation642-038 on Tape 642 (tape position 05:31:42–05:31:59)StartMonday, January 3, 1972 at 12:32 PMEndMonday, January 3, 1972 at 12:36 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 642-038 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate his upcoming daily schedule. The discussion centered on logistics for an afternoon meeting with Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr., specifically confirming the Cabinet Room as the designated location. Bull received instructions to ensure the meeting remained on track for the scheduled 1:30 pm start time.

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NARA Description

On January 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:36 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 642-038 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 642-38

Date: January 3, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:32 pm and 12:36 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President's schedule
          -Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr.
                -Cabinet Room
          -Meeting at 1:30 pm
          -Dreyfus's location

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:36 pm.

Also recorded on January 3, 1972

642-037 12:18 PM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John W. Kauffman, Stephen M. Morris, Jack A. L. Hahn, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., James H. Cavanaugh, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:18 pm to 12:32 pm.
018-011 12:32 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:36 pm.
018-012 12:32 PM · 8 min — the White House operator, Alexander P. Butterfield, President Richard M. Nixon, and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:43 pm.
642-039 12:32 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, White House operator, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:43 pm.
642-040 12:43 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and 12:45 pm.
642-041 12:43 PM · 22 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and 12:45 pm.
642-042 12:45 PM · 52 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr., and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:45 pm to 12:46 pm.
642-028 12:46 PM · 28 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 2:07 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 642-038, January 3, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/642-038 (accessed September 30, 2026).