Conversation 663-005

TapeTape 663StartTuesday, February 1, 1972 at 4:05 PMEndTuesday, February 1, 1972 at 5:33 PMTape start time01:27:20Tape end time02:56:06ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  Connally, John B.;  Ziegler, Ronald L.Recording deviceOval Office

On February 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John B. Connally, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:05 pm to 5:33 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 663-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 663-005

Date: February 1, 1972
Time: 4:05 pm - 5:33 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and John B. Connally.

     President’s schedule

     Connally schedule
         -Testimony
               -George P. Shultz
                    -Reaction
               -Taxes
         -Pittsburgh trip
               -Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr. conference
                    -Timing
         -Testimony

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 5:33 pm.

     People’s Republic of China [PRC] and Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] trips
          -Possible gifts for officials
               -George Washington
                     -Indians
                            -Medals
                            -Suggestions by Connally
                                   -PRC and USSR
               -Chou En-lai, Mao Tse-tung, Leonid I. Brezhnev
               -Gold

     Domestic programs
         -Congressional relations
               -Revenue sharing

                        -Wilbur D. Mills
                 -Welfare
                        -Abraham A. Ribicoff role
                 -Blind benefits
                        -Political impact
                 -Social Security
                        -Political benefits
                 -Welfare
                        -Unemployment
                        -Public opinion
                 -Government reorganization
                 -Polls
                        -Timing
                 -Re-election of the President
                 -Congressional leadership
                        -Mills
                        -John W. Byrnes, Keith Sebelius, Frank T. Bow
                        -Byrnes
                        -Ways and Means Committee
                               -Al Ullman
                               -James A. Burke
                               -Unknown person
                               -Dan Rostenkowski
                               -Charles A. Vanik

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       1972 election
              -Realignment of US political parties
                     -Harry F. Byrd Jr.
                            -Example of realignment
              -Democratic Party

                         -Edmund S. Muskie
                                 -Potential nomination
                                 -Potential adoption of centrist positions post-nomination
                                 -Arizona and Iowa caucuses
                                 -Strategy
                                 -Potential move to left
                                         -As opposed to moving to center
                                         -George S. McGovern
                         -Polls
                                 -Southern states
                         -Response to candidacy of George C. Wallace
                                 -Attempts to win Northern states rather than Southern states
                                 -Compared to previous Republican Party strategy
                         -Potential impact on Democratic campaign in South
                                 -Georgia
                                 -Alabama
                                 -Texas
                                 -Border states
                                 -Potential candidacy as a Democrat
               -Voters
                      -Southern states
                      -Mountain states
                      -Farm states
                      -California
                      -New York
                      -Ohio
                      -Common bonds with President
                              -As compared to Edmund S. Muskie
                              -As compared to Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
               -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
               -John C. Stennis
                      -Commonalities with Democratic Party
                      -Commonalities with Republican Party
               -Democratic Party
                      -President’s opinion
                              -Strength of left-wing
                      -Rules Committee for 1972 convention
                      -Southern Democrats
                              -[first name unknown] Davies

                                     -Medicare
                            -[first name unknown] Callaghan
                     -Reform rules
                     -Control over 1972 convention delegations
                            -Rules
                            -Equal representation
                            -Primaries
                            -Delegate selection
                                     -Makeup of delegates
                                     -Gender and racial diversity
                                     -Flexibility of rules
               US Congress
                     -Need for reorganization
                     -Democratic members
                            -President’s view
                            -John B. Connally’s view

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     Connally’s conversation with Pittsburgh businessmen, January 31, 1972
         -National Association of Manufacturer [NAM]
         -US Chambers of Commerce
         -Labor leaders
                -George Meany
         -Unknown person
         -Unknown bankers
         -John D. Harper, Bob Dorsey
         -Connally’s schedule
                -Reception

     Conservative compared to liberal philosophies
          -Connally’s opinion
          -Uniformity
          -Labels
                -Radicals

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       1972 election
              -Democratic Party
                      -1972 Democratic Party convention
                      -Forces operating within
                      -Edmund S. Muskie
                              -Potential nomination
              -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
                      -View of John B. Connally
                      -Attempts to deny nomination to Edmund S. Muskie
                      -President
                      -George S. McGovern
                      -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                      -Opposition to Edmund S. Muskie
                      -Michael J. Mansfield
                              -Attitude towards Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
                      -News coverage
                              -Prominence of Kennedy family
                              -American Sportsman
                              -Magazine stories covering Kennedy family
                                      -Ethel (Skakel) Kennedy
                                      -Robert F. (“Bobby”) Kennedy
                                      -Jacqueline Lee Bouvier Kennedy Onassis
                                      -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
                                      -Rose F. Kennedy
                      -Attempts to influence Democratic Party nomination
                      -Strategy to get Democratic Party nomination for president
                              -Chappaquiddick
                              -Plans prior to 1972 Democratic Party convention
                              -Risks of strategy
              -Potential makeup of 1972 Democratic Party convention
              -1968 Democratic Party convention
                      -Texas delegation

                               -View of John B. Connally
                               -Populist nature
                               -Black delegates
                                       -As compared to Michigan delegation
                                       -As compared to New York delegation
                                       -As compared to California delegation
                               -Participation of labor activists and labor groups
                               -Diverse makeup of delegation
                                       -Men
                                       -Women
                                       -Mexicans
                                       -Blacks
                               -Contested seating of delegation
                       -Potential of walking out from 1972 Democratic Party convention
                               -Eugene J. McCarthy
               -State delegations to 1968 Democratic Party convention
                       -Colorado
                               -View of John B. Connally
                               -Compared to delegations from other states
                       -Wyoming
                       -New York
                       -Connecticut
               -Delegations to 1968 Republican convention
                       -New York
                               -Jewish makeup of delegation
                                       -President’s view
                                       -John B. Connally’s view

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 4:31 pm.

       Ronald L.Ziegler
              -Ronald W. Reagan
                     -Interest in discussing welfare reform with President

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     Press announcement
          -Welfare reform

                 -Meeting with governors
                       -Ronald W. Reagan
                       -Daniel J. Evans
                 -President’s instruction to Ziegler
                       -Trial cases
                       -Common ground with Congress
                             -Reagan
                       -California, New York
                       -Ribicoff proposal

Ziegler left at 4:34 pm.

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       Domestic politics
             -John B. Connally suggestions
                      -February through March 1972
                      -Republican members of US Congress
                              -Importance of keeping in check
                              -Wives
                              -One-on-one meetings
                                      -Presence of Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
                                      -Photographers
                              -Potential benefits to President
             -President’s response to suggestion
                      -Potential scheduling of meetings
                              -After President’s People’s Republic of China [PRC] visit
                              -Proximity to 1972 election campaign
             -Suggestions for President
                      -Democrats in Congress
                      -One-on-one meetings
                              -Cabinet undersecretaries

                               -Assistant secretaries
                               -Aides
                               -Lower-echelon staffers
                               -Wives
                               -Description of undersecretary-level officials
                               -Potential receptions
               -Meeting with general counsel of Treasury Department
                       -Week of January 24, 1972
               -Church attendance
               -Interaction with unnamed individual
                       -Individual’s respect for Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
                       -Individual’s wife
                               -Dislike for Lyndon B. Johnson
                               -Home portrait of Lyndon B. Johnson

       Remaining length of President’s meeting with John B. Connally

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     Federal funding of campaigns
          -Possible legislation
                -Timing
          -Federal Communications Commission [FCC] compared to networks
                -Congressional action
                -Long term solution
                -Use of network time
                      -Prime time schedules
                             -Advantages
                -Nationalization
                      -Great Britain

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       1972 campaign
              -Importance of establishing political machine
              -John B. Connally’s interaction at Democratic National Committee [DNC]
                     -National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC] program
                             -Democratic Party
                     -Thomas F. Eagleton
                     -Issue of equal time given to coverage of presidential campaigns
                     -Involvement of Bill Monroe
                             -State of the Union coverage
                     -National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC] program
                             -Robert S. Strauss
                             -Lawrence F. O’Brien Jr.
                             -Birch E. Bayh Jr.
                             -Wendell R. Anderson
                             -Patricia Harris
                             -Mary Lou Gallagher[?]
                     -John B. Connally’s opinion of program
                             -Divisive nature of program
                             -Description of Democratic Party officials appearing on program
                             -Democratic Party identification with the poor
                             -Racial issues
                             -Presentation of Republican viewpoint
              -Economic class
                     -Potential 1972 campaign issue
              -Reform
              -Democratic Party criticisms of Republican Party
                     -Described by John B. Connally
                     -Republican Party approach to wealthy Americans
                             -Compared to approach to poor Americans
              -Importance of point person to answer criticisms
                     -Robert J. Dole
                     -Republican Party chairmen
              -President’s analysis
                     -Distinguishing between campaign operator
                             -Compared to campaign spokesman
                             -John N. Mitchell
                                     -Leaving February 15, 1972

                                     -Position of campaign manager
                      -Description of Robert J. Dole
               -John B. Connally
                      -Need for spokesmen for President’s re-election campaign
                             -Inside and outside US Congress
                             -Governors
                      Democratic Party criticisms of Republican Party
                             -Economic policies of Herbert C. Hoover

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     Domestic politics
         -Criticism of President
               -Bob Eckhart
                       -Ways and Means Commission
                       -Unemployment charts
                            -Republican administrations compared to Democratic ones
                                   -Lyndon B. Johnson
                       -John F. Kennedy
                       -Harry S Truman
                       -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                            -Comparisons
                       -War economy
                            -Barber B. Conable, Jr.
                                   -World War II, Korean War and Vietnam War
                       -Care for people
               -Wealthy members of President’s administration
                       -Red Smith article
                            -Aerospace industry
                       -Rich compared to poor
                            -Possible friction from the public
                       -Wage criticism
                       -John N. Mitchell
                       -Maurice H. Stans
               -Reagan
               -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                       -Possible role
               -Congressional feeling

                       -Robert J. Dole
                       -Hugh Scott
                       -Gerald R. Ford
                       -Barry M. Goldwater
                 -Spokesmen for President’s view
                       -Vietnam
                       -Appearances
                              -John V. Lindsay
                              -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                              -Reagan
                                   -Support for the President
                              -Opposition efforts
                                   -Welfare, People’s Republic of China [PRC], class hatred
                                         -Connally
                              -Goldwater
                                   -Television presence
                 -The President’s forthcoming trip to the PRC
                 -Class distinctions

     Economy
          -International monetary conditions
                -Status
                      -Gold bill
                      -European Economic Community [EEC] view
                      -Connally’s previous conversation with unknown person
                      -Canada
                -Canada
                      -Cabinet
                      -Forthcoming election
                      -US efforts
                            -Possible statement
                                  -Progress
                -Pierre E. Trudeau
                      -View of negotiations
                -US public opinion
                -State and Commerce Departments
          -Excise taxes
          -Budget deficit
                -World War II

                  -Alternatives
                         -Congress
                               -Amount of taxes
                                     -Stagnation
                  -Economic stimulus
                         -Jobs
                  -1968 economy
                  -Inflation
                  -Unemployment
                  -Productivity Commission
                  -Public relations
                         -Connally’s meetings in Pittsburgh
                               -Wage and price controls
                               -Alternative
                                     -Inflation
                               -US steel
                                     -Japan, West Germany
                         -Productivity Commission
                               -Importance
                               -Haldeman
                               -Possible speech
                               -Possible material for speechwriters
                                     -Connally
                                           -Transcripts
                                     -Class distinctions
            -International monetary conditions
                  -Suspension of convertibility
                         -Complexity of issue
                         -Europe
                         -Arthur F. Burns
                               -Europe
                         -US economic growth
                               -Great Britain, France, Japan
                         -The President’s August 15, 1971 speech
                         -Burns
                               -Recommended call to James Dewey Daane
                  -Wage and price controls
            -Trade
                  -Connally’s testimony

                       -Memorandum from Peter M. Flanigan
                 -Peter G. Peterson
                       -Confirmation as Secretary of Commerce
                            -Testimony
                                  -Timing
                 -William D. Eberle
                       -Previous conversation with Connally
                            -Flanigan
                 -Gold
                 -Surcharge
                       -Connally’s previous with Eberle
                            -State Department
                            -Peterson
                            -Testimony
                            -Negotiations with Canada
                                  -Treasury Department
                            -EEC
                            -Commerce Department
                 -Concerns

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       Economy
             -Trade
             -William D. Eberle
                     -President’s concerns
                             -Ultra-liberal stance
                                      -Tariffs
             -Similarity to Dwight A. Ink[?]
                     -President’s opinion

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       Economy
              -President’s concerns
                      -Henry A. Kissinger
                      -Eberle
                      -John Meyer
                            -Possible appointment of businessman
                            -Tariffs
                                  -Concern
                                  -Burns’s involvement
                                        -Quadriad
          -The President’s previous meeting with unknown people
          -Lack of business input
                -State of the economy
          -Criticism
          -Money supply
                -Banking
                      -Long term rates
                            -Reduction
          -Inflation
          -Treasury bonds
                -Interest
                -Long-term rates
                      -Long term bonds
                            -Percentage
          -Big business and bankers
                -Budget
                -Investment tax credit
                -Wage and price controls
          -1963-69 trends
                -Effect
                -Competition
                -Intimidation by statistics
                      -Retail sales
                      -Refusal to get too high or too low
          -Connally view on the economy
                -Unemployment
                      -Campaign issue

                         -Percentage over the last few years
            -Movement of inflation indicators
                  -Effect on public
            -Haves compared to have nots
                  -PRC, USSR
                  -Possible trade bloc
                         -Latin America
            -Flanigan, Peterson
                  -Style
                         -President’s opinion

     Personnel
          -Dwight D. Eisenhower
               -Understanding of people
          -Personal styles
               -Communication skills

     Appointments
          -Justice Department
                -Connally’s talk with Mitchell
          -Commerce Department
                -Peterson
          -Bureaucracy

     Government reorganization
          -1972 election
                -November 7, 1972
          -1968
          -Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD]
          -Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
          -Treasury Department
          -Justice Department
          -State Department

     PRC trip
          -1968

     USSR trip
         -Timing

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       President’s schedule
              -President’s conversation with [name unknown] about trip
              -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                      -Conversation with John B. Connally
              -President’s suggestion to John B. Connally
                      -End of February 1972
                      -Trip to Florida
                              -Advantages
                                       -Privacy
                                       -Attitude of residents
                                       -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
                                       -Golf course
                                       -Fishing
                              -Warns against staying in hotel
                                       -Presence of media
              -John B. Connally
                      -New York
                      -Phone call from H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                              -Invitation to Camp David
                      -Apology to President
                      -Schedule
              -California
                      -As a vacation spot
                      -President’s family
                      -President’s opinion
              -President’s suggestion to John B. Connally
                      -Trip to New York
                      -House in Florida
                              -Private beach

                             -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
                             -United States Secret Service [USSS]
                             -Dates
                                      -February 17, 1972
               -John B. Connally
                      -Meetings with Republican leadership
                             -February 1, 1972
                             -David N. Parker[?]
                             -Trip
                      -President’s suggestion of trip to Florida
                             -Meeting with John B. Connally February 9-10, 1972
                             -Dinner
                             -Fishing
                             -Sailing
                             -George A. Smathers
                             -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
                             -Houseboat
                             -Presence of Coast Guard
                      -Upcoming meeting with President

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Connally left at 5:33 pm.

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He's sitting out here pulling his heels off the bench.
Oh, okay.
Dr. Mann, go ahead, please.
It's nice to sit here.
I didn't know you were here yet.
I'm hoping you did not.
You said that I could go up and get a golf ball.
I said, where are you going?
I'm going to get a golf ball.
But we can't.
We couldn't.
We couldn't.
We've got a lot of fun out there this afternoon.
Oh, I see.
I think we should probably come in here before the meeting.
I'm curious about what you were talking about yesterday.
Oh, because this was going to get nothing to ask you.
They just sat around and did nothing.
They just came to you and that's all.
How much?
Okay, just all.
And what was that?
Really?
What the hell was it?
What do you want from me?
That's the thing.
Get the money around.
Oh, yeah.
Get the budgets and politics and taxes and... Yeah, you know, if you say you've got to have new taxes tomorrow, you're planning to march in.
All right, all right.
Thanks.
Uh, yeah, he likes to talk, but I have to eat today.
You ready?
Ready.
Well, that's good.
You know, it's a miracle that you're talking to me.
Yeah, well, you can do it if you've got any time.
You know what I mean?
I ain't impressed with what?
Money's sitting here.
They ain't getting killed.
As much as they killed it.
Yesterday I was supposed to be in Pittsburgh at 4.30.
I finally left there at 4.20.
Jesus Christ.
Got up there at 6 o'clock.
They ain't going to throw me on and on and on.
We did a race.
I was running 12 to 25.
He said, go on, you're sending for 1 o'clock next week.
So they came back, they came back, so they had a whole group of like 20, 9 or 15 children.
Well, that's over to today.
And then I had to relax at 2 o'clock.
And so he said, you know, he finally said, please, I'm going to have a good time.
Well, there you go.
Mary Brooks had an idea, wasn't she?
I'm going to force you to think it's just an idea in your conscience.
Think it all, but it doesn't really be your thing.
Here is a method that the men made for George Washington.
George Washington, I don't know if you've got it.
For George Washington, on his side, there's a picture of the democracy that the men put that they want to use.
Here's his.
Here's his.
And for James.
This is a photo that was made to give to the Indians.
There's inside of the comic book, you see.
And the thought is that we might make that in solid gold.
And here's the hands, the 15 hands of the early Colossians.
Now, when you make that in solid gold, and they put George Washington's knee on one side,
for you to give to the Chinese and the Russians, if you want to.
It's just, you may not want to do it.
They may not.
I don't think you ought to put me under you, because you don't relate to the party at all from the beginning.
I think what you want you to do.
But I think, I think, I think you need to get this.
I know it's a fine thing to do.
But it wouldn't be a bad thing to say, oh, I mean, I don't think you want it.
I think you want it.
Just like if this was a copy of what they had in the first place.
That's what they say, that all of them had their first place.
Because they're making for that same piece.
A piece of trinity.
And it just might be that little unusual thing.
If we make it a solid building, which is the answer, Mark, what would we do?
You know what I'm talking about.
You'd have to have a machine.
You'd have to have...
And we do it then.
And of course, the real story of being present at the White House is not worth it, right?
And she didn't think of this.
She always needs a message to really deter.
I like that.
I like that.
You know, I mean, back here, here, you know, that's just the, this, this, this, you know, here's the other, you know, these guys have been here now, it's been a few, one year, it's now the 2nd of February.
And we did walk the big game.
And they are going to do a thing that I haven't done in less than a month.
And then I'll come back, and I'll fire around for another 30 days.
I'll go out for a few more days.
And then I'll come back, and I'll fire around for another couple of months.
And then I'll go out to the convention, and then we're done.
And I find that the better strategy is to, well, at first, it's not going to be good.
They haven't done it.
That's what I think.
You've got to have a goal to bring action into your land.
That's right.
But in my view, John, I would say this is the opposite of what you wrote.
In my view, I don't believe that if you stay here, I don't know, if you go back one year, if I go back one year, I can't get the person, if you can't get the person, if you can't get the person, you can't get the person, you can't get the person, you can't get the person, you can't get the person, you can't get the person, you can't get the person,
Well, we're a public community, so we can make the test and we'll get it done.
It might get a test, but I'm not sure.
I don't know what you want.
I don't want to.
But with that out, there are some good things in that, regardless of security and the law and all that.
I mean, good political things.
I mean, I want to see whether it works.
And so I can also discuss it.
I mean, what do you do with it?
But I think we can see what you're doing.
But beyond that, you can make it a little better.
But I don't think that we can get it to what?
A lot of Congress will go forward and this is, you know, time to start getting it.
If we want it to be better, we have to take it around, put it around.
If the Congress is intended to look bad, we may have to make it better.
But we may have to make it a little better.
The truth of the matter is that we don't know about that stuff.
They're not responsible for that stuff.
We're here every year, every term, because a lot of the old-timers are here.
They're here to take away from each other.
I'll bet you not.
I'll bet you a little bit.
I'll bet you not.
You can't get to that.
You're tired of talking.
Yeah.
If you get frustrated with the president, you love him.
You love him.
And I will be all for it.
I'll be in class.
I'll be in class.
I'll be in class.
I'll be in class.
Frank Bowles, Frank Bowles, with the committee.
And it's kind of funny that, funny that he's a responsible guy, but I don't know.
But he's done good.
He's done good.
He's done good.
He's done good.
He's done good.
He's done good.
You've got the plan to do it afterwards.
The way things are going, my guess is that
The prediction is that Muskie is nominated to be the first secretary is nominated for the position of senator very hard.
On the other hand, with a very strong deal that could have been made in the Arizona Senate, I have a very strong idea that this is going to be far-fetched by the radicals, by Muskie, and listen to all people, Muskie may have to move, rather than the Senate,
and he had the ability to protect his left.
And rather than, rather than, in other words, attention, to make attention to certain pieces of stuff, what we might have thought he was, in other words, the, you know, the middle of the, you know, the panacea, or something like that, some decent stuff around there, he might have, whatever happened to Burleson, he might, I think it's very possible that when that,
It was the same thing.
The Democratic Party, which she was very likely to do at the moment, and not at that point.
The Democratic Party came to the campaign site to write the cell phone, and to go all out.
It wasn't a debate in order to fix.
Now, if that happens, then we need to change the way I'm thinking about it.
It's not partisan, but it goes with the business of the country.
It's my opinion.
The candidates now, first of all, I don't care if they're American.
I don't care if they're some damn thing.
They're a community candidate.
They can't be in a car, go to New York, to Alabama.
They're going to have to do it in Texas and the border states.
They're going to have to do it in Texas and the border states.
And of all the places in the Democratic Party, there are a lot of decent Southerners.
A lot of them.
You might wonder.
But we can't quit.
You know, I can't quit the South.
And one or two states.
Well, of course, you can meet them out in the state.
And then one or two of them.
One or two of them.
New York, California, New York, Ohio, Kentucky, and Carolina.
Now that's pretty close.
There's a lot of people down here.
They think that if you work for the band, if you're taking the name of the party and so forth, they really belong at the band.
The only thing that I think is in common with this is Jax.
But even Jax, they had worked out with me that Jax and Jax are slowly later when you're up.
And I'm not.
And they're not.
Oh, and I think it's all like, well, usually, I think the kids, once you're there, you work with them.
You wouldn't have any questions about that.
It's hard, and that doesn't fit you right away.
But you look over that group there, and it's just like, it's just a ball in that guy's head, right?
Party, that's the president of the country.
He doesn't belong there.
He doesn't belong in parts of the Republican Party.
That's part of it, but what is really needed is that I didn't, I didn't select what was needed in this country.
Both parties live basically in a, you know, in a country, right?
the Democratic Party is taking over by taking a bunch of lefts.
I don't believe, particularly with their new development of their new rules, that they're going to finish with the rest.
If anything else comes up, I think that's going to be a huge issue.
I think it's going to be a huge loss for the responsible Democrats.
And by that I mean the good Democratic Democrats.
They have some of their responsible men in the heart, and they have some.
that they're going to find that they're always less and less.
Now, there's the point about the Mike Davis.
The point about the Mike Davis.
He's a good man.
He's a good man.
He's a good man.
He's a good man.
He's a good man.
He's a good man.
He's a good man.
What are, what is that report?
Are they going to do that next week?
Excellent.
Excellent.
I don't know.
Are they going to do that next week?
I don't know what the, all the rules are, but in fact, you do.
It has to be recognized primary.
It has to be recognized primary.
It has to be recognized primary.
It has to be recognized primary.
So, what they've done, frankly, is they've proved flexible enough to where they can keep down any WD, the measures they want to, and they will.
Where it kind of goes, there's a problem, and then we'll bring it up.
We'll bring it up.
We'll bring it up yet again.
Looking to the future, getting to your point about the Congress.
The Congress is going to be reorganizing all their lines.
And frankly, the good guys in Congress have got to make a total promise that all parties are together.
Or they're going to find that they're responsible to run the country.
Well, you know, they're getting close to getting to Missouri, you know, with the rest of the team.
And frankly, there's just a lot of good, decent people.
They're just tired of doing that.
They want to find a job.
And unfortunately, we don't see the best people.
More than the way they should.
You don't know this?
You don't know this?
I still do.
I still do.
I still do.
I still do.
I still do.
I still do.
I still do.
where they wouldn't take me to see her.
Oh, they'd have a good event.
Let me just say this to your parents there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then you met us all there.
That was before.
Before.
We got there in time for it.
I got there about an hour late, but they were all still there.
And I didn't go to the movies.
I didn't have to think about that.
I don't need to.
I didn't have to think about it.
I didn't want to be involved.
They had all the top people in Pittsburgh.
It's going to be a mean fight.
But part of what you have to do is you need to be smart.
And I'm not a little fearful because of what you need to be smart in this country.
You have to have your legs.
You know, I'm keen to serve as a liberal.
You know, I'm keen to serve as a liberal.
You know, I'm keen to serve as a liberal.
They believe in the greatest part of the leaders, the liberals that are here.
They're socialists.
They don't believe in any of these things.
They believe in the commonality of man.
They believe in reducing everybody to the same common denominator, and having uniformity, and having different people as class.
What we did is this.
The people of our thoughts need to communicate liberally.
And Brian did.
I just read it.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't read it.
I didn't read it.
I didn't read it.
I didn't read it.
I think what's going to happen here, John, is that these great forces that are operating within the Democratic Party and the Democratic Convention
I don't know.
I don't know what they can do to them.
The only way they can do to them is if we all get together and see that one of the other side must be this combination.
And without them, I can't fight.
A month ago, I said I was pretty with you.
I'm not with you, but at this point, no, come again.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
He lied and said he had to be involved in her evil and the curtain.
Brian had tried to be here as much as I could wrap this thing up and move it.
But it's like watching a human in the sky.
So this is a cautious hero.
I wouldn't see that kind of thing in a scene.
No question about it.
He's trying to see things like that.
He's going to see it for you.
He's going to go against a new way to be seen.
I'll see him.
I don't know if you've seen that, but I don't know if you've seen that, but I don't know if you've seen that,
uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh...
He wants to wait.
First, he has to go through with the environment.
When he has more faith, he has to wait.
The longer he gets by that, the longer he gets by that, the better off he is.
Exactly.
He doesn't think right today.
He decides to do the team.
So he doesn't want to make that decision that he wants to wait just before the convention begins and have a look at it then.
But he can run this.
The only risk he runs is that Busty Raps is going to have it.
If he can stop that, then he can convince another one.
Like I mentioned, I'm convinced he can pull these people away.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I guarantee you, Mr. President, I sat in the 68th convention.
We had, as I told you, we had the best delegation in that convention, every single one.
We had the most honest black people, the most representative.
We had more blacks sitting than any delegation in that convention.
We had more than New York, more than California.
It's just absolutely...
We had a perfect, we had a perfect, yes sir, it was the Democratic Commission, I had the delegation, but we had labor on there, we had AFL-CL, we had men and we had women and we had mercenaries, we had blacks, we had all.
There was no question what we had to find in the delegation.
The main tendency of our delegation, we didn't win it, but 1100, 800 brothers,
1130 to 1850, something like that.
In 68, there was no credible challenge to our delegation.
Couldn't have been more honest than this.
Now, when they did do that to us in 68, 1100 to 1850, roughly 1100 to 1850, that much.
Well, there was no justification, whatever, for even a challenge.
But I don't think he can do it.
I think there's always going to be
I believe that they do that.
They walk out or a car might walk out.
You don't know what's going to happen.
But these are crazy.
They're pretty crazy.
I watched the delegation.
You know, we think of Colorado as being the western state, the same state as it is.
Except the Democrats in Colorado are worse than the Democrats in anywhere else.
They're in the real range.
But the worst delegations in the 1968 convention were Colorado and Wyoming.
I'm talking about the Democrats.
And New York and New York were a wild land in New York.
Connecticut, Michigan, they were the biggest in New York.
And New York, New York would have a very, very healthy Jewish delegation.
Oh, sure.
Yes, it was discussed, but that was not the major part of the discussion.
It was Governor Evans.
Governor Evans both indicated their position, and my rear and my support both turned to them.
I can say it that way.
They should know, of course, that it has now moved to the...
Is that the line you're taking in the trial that is under consideration?
No, we're not pointing to what we're saying.
We understand Dr. Rainer's point.
He said it before, but we reiterated our support for it.
We're trying to work out with the Senate some strong proposals, some common ground where we can get some action.
I think if you find it awful, you are going to have to ask again because of the statement.
The question is going to come up.
I think the question is a struggle.
We're trying to work on the contract.
And it got erased.
The opposition wouldn't understand.
That's been something that's not good.
And the other thing, we're running this experimentation.
Wait.
Wait.
Requirements of California, New York.
Okay.
I want you to say, President, that we are examining, we read about the proposal, the president is examining that proposal right here.
I want you to say it.
I mean, that, that, uh, this,
Well, there are two suggestions.
I would like to give you the details of things you might want to do.
Yes, sir.
I've been through the same sort of thing the last few years.
I don't know if I can do it, but over the next couple of months, you need to get these congressmen together.
The Republican congressmen.
And there was.
And we photographed those invasions that come through the city line.
You know, this makes the sand strong.
And the trains, 20 seconds per person.
And there'd be guitarists over there.
And there'd be lights set up.
And we'll do that type of picture later.
But each one of them invasions, like frames that take home.
And you can present it to a lady by telling her to get it together.
But it's a little bang, but something that
They'd like to have it.
Then there's one other situation I have.
We thought we could do that.
We went through with the science thing.
What marketing would bring us closer to the campaign side?
Sometimes I think I have a big bill budget for it.
There's one other group.
That's just one of the reasons.
There's one other group that's separate groups.
I'm going to use the Democrats for this.
I've got to have a group of fellows like Stanton and others who start out as a pirate team in cases of ridiculous risk.
I don't have those false lists.
I mean, I don't think there's any ridiculous parts of it.
But they go with us on national security over and over again.
We're part of it.
And most of them.
I know.
I know.
The other thing that you ought to think about having in it are the undersecretaries.
and agency heads, and more or less the second and third of any amount of people who come down here with their wives.
A lot of these folks come.
I think this is a lot of talk.
And they come down here.
A lot of them are pretty able folks.
But they leave their homes and bring their wives.
They don't get it.
They see it.
and so forth, and they wonder where it is, and they don't get invited here very often, and so forth.
I just have to have a reception, tea or coffee or something in the evening, and what
So it's not that important to have a tribunal, but it is important.
But I'm going to let you know, I'm going to let you know, Federal Reserve people I'm talking about, and I'm mad about it.
I've had to do a lot of this myself.
But I don't count you as a traitor, just that.
Right.
And he's been here long, he's been here six times.
And, uh, I've been here many times.
You know, I've been here a year.
Uh, what do you think of that?
You know, and I feel that.
John knows that.
And he says, I don't know what he's talking about.
I don't know what he's talking about.
And what does he think about it?
I don't know.
But I know there was a man here.
We've got a lot of them.
We've got a lot of them in churches.
Yes, we've got a lot of them there.
And that's a great thing, too.
I'll tell you what, I think we're going to check the whole group of theirs and see which ones have not been.
And I'm sure we're going to haul them to the next church or around that we want.
But as far as the church, if you want to see that new person, that's a good thing.
That's really good.
We don't have any issues on that, though.
The Congress will be good.
Let me read one of these pictures.
Yes, they did.
They're really good.
They could have a flash of it in English.
They need to hang their own offices and names and so forth.
And you know, they don't...
I had one tell me the other night.
We were out this morning.
And he looked up and saw a couple of pictures where they were on the wall with him.
And...
One of them said, you know, we've got a little picture at home, on our damn wall.
And he said, you know, it's funny, he said, my wife is a kid, you know.
And I said, well, why don't you have a picture on the wall?
And he said, well, I guess she doesn't hate me that much.
Sure.
So I said, you don't even like me.
I mean, if we're going to give you that money, we can do it a lot.
See, we have the money.
Because I've got the wallet and the money.
That's right.
But not the wallet.
I'm going to get this money.
Why don't we do it?
Pretty easy.
I don't need more of it.
Let's be real.
It all happened in advance.
It's not very good.
Give me a couple of hours, an hour and a half.
We've got to find some way to counter this move for the federal government to take over the nation.
We'll look at the key effects.
Do you mean that's going to come up again?
It may not be.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it's going to be.
But it's going to be.
Well, that's the terror.
Terror is an intervention.
It's not the danger.
I don't think it can do anything.
But you might think about it.
There's one other part of it that...
More and more, there's going to be pressure from Congress to take over the PTA, SEC, and the levels.
Because they say that that workshop won't give the time, that that workshop won't do this, they demand equal power.
And they're going to get more and more demands from Congress.
And technically, this drives state power.
And just as I did,
It's a vital cost, and I haven't really thought it through.
Maybe you ought to make a contract for it, for five million dollars.
Just let them put you through for it.
It's an old person buying television time, flying time.
And let them spend it any way they want to.
Or maybe they have to use it to buy all three networks at one time.
Now, this is a place where it works very different things.
That's good.
That's good.
But I'm not sure that Mike's job, the long-term move, maybe we'll have to do it today.
Maybe by the end of the year.
Maybe the first year.
I don't know.
More and more and more.
And any time you're going to come, I want to say thank you.
I don't have any faith for the final level, because they're all completely different.
The television is the end.
The political campaign, however, has to make it right.
And so it's not something to get through.
It's not something to get right.
It's not something to get back in your mind or heart.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
So it's on point.
We'll do that kind of pressure, but probably, I would say this year, I would do it only this year, because we've got the answer damn much down there now.
But if they do, that would be a good power point.
Now, the only other suggestion I have, and I don't know who has to do it, and I'm not speaking to any individual,
But I really think you ought to set up, not through you, but I think you ought to set up your political regime in a fairly open way, fairly soon.
I understand that this is going to be a mean, rough year.
Yep.
I watched the lawyers' opposition the other day, and they got an hour.
And they've already answered that.
They've got two hours to do 29 minutes.
See, they had Lincoln and all the rest of them on last week.
Vincent and Eagleton and all that crap.
Oh, that didn't run out.
What the hell was that, George?
Oh, that was to Andrew.
That was very equal time.
Saturday, Congress.
This week, I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm out.
But the whole trust, the whole trust, the part they would say, not how, I wish to invite you, invite you, that we need to be right in that.
We've got to have this built.
We've got to get it.
We've got to have an opportunity to present our views to the American people all the way through this whole television.
We're a poor people.
We represent the poor.
The opposition, the Republicans, are the rich.
They are rich.
They represent the rich.
This is a whole thrust.
The economic class is the economic class.
That's right.
That's the word.
That's the word.
That's the word.
That's the word.
That's the word.
That's the word.
That's the word.
That's the word.
That's the word.
They're trying to put it in place all the time.
Well, why aren't you for reform?
Are you going to have a reform bill?
You've got 1,712 people that make over $200,000.
Well, you take care of the rich, why don't you do something for the poor?
You know, all the more.
Yes, I get heat.
That's right.
And it's the same thing that's going to run through these old cops today.
At some point in the game, that's still too far.
Somebody has to be out there.
Somebody has to be out there.
There's going to be no interruption or other kind of action.
What's going to happen?
You see, we're going to have, as far as the operators are concerned, many of them will leave.
I'm not supposed to.
I'm not supposed to.
I'm not supposed to.
I'm not supposed to.
I'm not supposed to.
I'm not supposed to.
I agree.
I think we'd like to get away with it as soon as possible.
They're trying to see the money, but they look back to Hoover again.
They say, this is the part of Hoover we know.
And Bob Eckhart, who we didn't know, Bob Eckhart, this morning, appeared to me the way he used to be sitting there all the way in.
And I wondered why.
Well, he's a labor cop.
He's from Texas.
And I don't know if he had anything to do with it.
We talked to him.
He said, right.
But he appeared to me the way he speaks to me this morning.
Well, I guess to that, I mean,
Oh, he got his, he didn't care less.
He used it as a fork.
Had it in his heart.
So in his whole life, I'm going to show you what happens on his life.
And Republicans and Democrats, it wasn't strange.
He had it all charted.
He had it all charted.
He had it all charted.
He had it all charted.
He had it all charted.
Robert Connelly spoke up and said, well, I'm trying to get you online to collect the war from there, too.
He said, put the war in there.
He said, put World War II, put the Korean War, and put the Vietnam War.
He said, see how that relates to what you're making from there.
I said, well, what do you mean?
He said, I will admit that there's more to it than just one fact, but the whole point of it is that we're the rich.
You don't care about me.
Now this is what, this is what I'm asking you to let go of me.
Right here.
That's all that rests your head.
That's all that rests your head.
That's all that rests your head.
That's all that rests your head.
That's all that rests your head.
That's all that rests your head.
uh... uh... uh...
It's the red basement, it's the red kitchen floor.
And, uh, it's the black ceiling.
And will it be, will it be, will it be, will it be, will it be, will it be, will it be,
And there are a lot of people who put up on the line, like, I'm just mad at you, Reagan.
He's afraid of going off the lead there because he doesn't quite understand what it is as well.
Oh, I'm mad at you.
Reagan's doing that because he's, you know, but that's what I think he was.
But I'll tell you what, they're talking about something quite different.
Now, Reagan said, you know, whatever you're doing, let me ask you what you're doing.
No, not yet.
No, not yet.
What would you have him do?
Well, apparently he's doing... Well, apparently he's doing... No, he ought not to be...
He ought not to be... Somebody ought to be... Somebody ought to be...
But he ought not to be...
He may be more effective than you.
You just get into this thing later on.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
And what you need is a totally irresponsible, low-life person.
You've got to really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really,
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Just run around and tell me.
Listen to them.
They won't listen to them.
Every time you see them.
You see them, you want to save them.
Come on, everybody say what you want to say.
You make them get off of you.
You try to get away.
You don't like to get slapped.
No, they never do.
Well, I don't respond to them.
Most people just go right down the hall.
You know, they're very attentive.
You have to try to get them to do their job.
You try to bring those soldiers.
You know, you see them out of the water.
and colorful and, you know, it's a combination of things.
The guys didn't want to know about that kind of stuff.
The guys had the stuff on the table.
And he knew that.
And he knew that.
And I was like, he wanted to do it.
And I was like, I want to go.
Yeah.
And his hand being fluid.
And people would believe it.
They would say, there's a 3D plastic.
There we go.
And here we go.
There's all this.
And I'm like,
But he said, we can do it.
And Reagan said, we can do it.
Reagan, he said, that's all right.
Reagan said, we can do it.
Reagan said, I don't want to listen to you on money matters or wealth matters.
I don't want to listen to you on money matters or wealth matters.
I don't want to listen to you on money matters or wealth matters.
I don't want to listen to you on money matters or wealth matters.
I'm trying to think of now, but I have a very small show on here.
I don't think there's no time over.
I'm glad we can get back in time.
In any event, we just need to...
It's pretty hard to get into a problem that's quite a great factor.
I'm sure there's just too much going on.
But that may be helpful.
hard look and kick back a lot of that particular idea.
I mean, not fighting the individuals, but they're fighting the class leaders running down the country and dividing America and so forth.
And I think you can hear it.
But I think this reverts to one other point.
If we enter the
The budget of the city and you got all the everything for the interest of the community and everything.
So I'm not going to talk about it.
It's just really interesting.
What is our next move there?
I think we're going to go up with the gold bill.
We can't get ready for school.
I don't know what that means.
they got a commission to ask the election.
And they're our team.
They're our team.
That's right.
And I don't know what I mean.
I think we know what we're going to need to do.
And I think we're going to need to fight for it.
I don't know.
I think we're going to need to fight for it.
I think we're going to need to fight for it.
I think we're going to need to fight for it.
I think we're going to need to fight for it.
But we have the others.
We have the others.
We need to work with the Canadians.
They have not been forthcoming.
I regret it.
I can't say that we've made the progress.
It may be.
We're not going to start this new life without you.
But we're going to start it.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
They don't want to do it.
They don't want to sign it.
They know it's going to be hard to deal with the cash.
So all we need to do is give them the World Investment Fund and repeal the excise taxes.
All we need to do is give them everything in the world, give them the tax credit, and give them the investment.
And then they go right around the head and grab it.
They've done it.
It's been real.
Everybody's done it.
We've done it.
And the sons of bitches all come around and point out about the budget.
Let me ask you, how do you handle a budget debt question?
I don't need any help.
Just say, here, we got the biggest debt in World War II, and we don't like it.
But what's the alternative?
What would you have said?
What would the Congress have said if the President had gone away in the face of the recent tax cuts in the last 30 days and put $38 million in taxes on the American people?
And it would have slowed down everything.
We had life.
None of us had life.
None of us had life.
None of us had life.
But we get it delivered to try to sustain the economy, to try to create jobs.
And this is the only justice in the community, the only time in which we ever think that that's the end of justice.
I mean, you're able to be justified when you have a rolling economy like we did in 1960, when you have an absolute amount of people, when you have an absolute amount of people, when you have an absolute amount of people, when you have an absolute amount of people, when you have an absolute amount of people, when you have an absolute amount of people, when you have an absolute amount of people,
It does not get paid.
It manages to get it later.
I've let you all the way to go to work.
What is your next move, John?
I think you are a president.
How do you feel?
I've been so long.
I've been running around with the business people and all that.
You've got the intent.
They were the ones that asked if it would be perfect.
But it is going to be different.
That's right.
And I beat that one.
I said, I know a lot of people like me.
And I said, I know a lot of people like me.
I said, I know a lot of people like me.
And I said, I know a lot of people like me.
That's what you did.
That's what you did.
That's what you did.
That's what you did.
That's what you did.
That's what you did.
That's what you did.
That's what you did.
That's what you did.
and maybe publicly at that business, that 17th, or the 9th, or the 9th, or the 9th, or the 9th, or the 9th, or the 9th, or the 9th,
in the future.
Oh, you think, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You don't get back to the international culture.
That's a hell of a deal to do.
It's too bad it's so complicated for us to understand.
If you realize the trouble we've been in, those men who are being so helpful, the criminals that now aren't reverting to the air, stay in.
What we ought to do, we ought to never go back and hurt about these men again, unless it's going to be in our interest.
You agree with that, don't you?
Why don't we put ourselves in the mercy of their feelings, that if you're at the front of too many, that every year people are wrecked or abandoned.
Or, in every two years, we throw what you can at it.
And what the hell do we have to say in terms of, we're going to determine the, what are we going to do with our organization?
Let's throw it at them.
It was rhinoceros.
I believe he had an interview with the Nigerian State Department.
I'm surprised more people realize what he did than I did.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
He said, you see, they're racist.
You go down, and you put up a trade sign.
And they're going to put up a trade sign.
They're going to put up a trade sign.
They're going to put up a trade sign.
See, they can have that.
No problem with that.
They must not.
I know of this kind of business.
First of all, you can't have people just like me.
One person's going to be there.
Otherwise, I'm very empowered.
Second, you go up there and say how you're going to do that.
The other thing, I'm going to say it.
And I'm going to do it if you want.
Let me run.
You're going to do a good job.
But if you're going to stay confirmed, you can't do it.
That's right.
So you can't do a thing.
You won't be.
You won't.
Let me say, we can't justify under any of this.
We don't want to talk about this.
We know not what else we can tell you about.
So let us decide.
All of us here now, in the meantime, are we using it?
We have to look at that, of course.
You know, there are these team players here.
And I suspect that he brought up a curiosity, not only that he got a friend, but I suspect that he brought up a curiosity.
He has a plan that he has a plan, because he wants to know about it.
He made it because of that plan.
But by the way, it must have seemed to occur to him when he saw the camera, and that's what I agreed with.
No, he said, thank you, thank you, thank you.
work whatever proposition you lay out and see if it will come up with it.
You know, I'm sure about it.
And let it do it.
Let it do it.
They all do.
And then hell, this is what I'm talking about.
We already did it.
We're around this minute.
And my judgment, if I can't do that, and I told Bill Everett this morning, I can't do that.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Well, I was the hard line.
I was keeping the search art going.
But the color was really, you know, right?
You know, right?
You know, right?
You know, right?
You know, right?
You know, right?
on my walk, on the dirt track, on this whole, uh, uh, project, this is the example, oh, oh, we didn't know what the hell we were going to do even there.
And I thought he would have, he would have had the friends, but he didn't at all.
I told Eric this morning, I said, well, I just want you to know what I'm doing.
I said, I'll get back to you when you tell me.
I said, I'll get back to you when you tell me.
I said, I'll get back to you when you tell me.
I said, I'll get back to you when you tell me.
And I didn't even think that he was going to tell me that he was going to tell me that he was going to tell me that he was going to tell me.
We're not trying to candidate because, why do we?
Because we're a lawful people and we're part of the Congress.
But we have to be part of the state now back then.
But anyway, I just want you to know that I'm aware.
Yeah.
I need to sign it away.
He used to have that wing.
He used to have that wing.
And even in the start, he also wrote the book.
But the Spanish in Paris at the time runs the Spanish way also, right?
You know, and I don't know, I don't know, but I, uh, but, uh, their manager was talking about it the other day.
When he saw me there, he said, you know, he said, I just want you to know that I'm, I'm really worried about what's going on.
And the manager of Paris, uh, he wrote, he wrote to me, he said, you know, he said, you know, it's not a secret.
And I didn't build up a good job.
And I have no patience at all.
He had to have a tough job.
And we get along fine, so don't worry about that.
The first time I was a young guy, everywhere I go, I didn't ask any people.
What is the problem?
What is the problem?
What are you all worried about?
Well, I always get that.
I talked to John Meyers.
I'm worried about the weather.
It looks to me like if you've got a little bit of sand on there, that's it.
I said, I can do it with Parker.
He said, he's up to a business now.
He said, he's got three of us.
I said, I can do it with Parker.
He said, he's up to a business now.
I said, he's up to a business now.
I said, he's up to a business now.
Anyway, what did I do?
I wrote a letter to the letter.
I said, I'm not writing to you directly, but you write to me directly.
So I just thought I'd keep it so as far as he can get me into the home.
No, I think the problem there is the primary thing I do is to milk the plants, to get the job to begin.
And I think that'd be it.
But that's not how I want it.
I think it's hard.
It's hard to speak.
It's hard to speak.
It's hard to speak.
It's hard to speak.
It's hard to speak.
It's hard to speak.
It's hard to speak.
And listening is not important.
It is not and important.
Because if you're a defensive American, also, if the bench has too much money, that forces the boarder into the room and also forces them to get off their hands and try to make a slow move.
Otherwise, they're going to sit back and they're going to have to bust and not do the business.
That's what we have to do.
That's what we have to do.
He's got one small counter-argument, which is a little very disheartening.
And that's only a very small argument.
We've got to force them to put that money out.
And we can't let them do it on the basis of, well, just take it and turn it around and tie it up again.
Because that's what they're really expecting.
The bank is expecting it.
The bank is expecting it.
So if you're going to lose it in the long-term race, never come down to it.
You've got to keep pressure on all fronts.
But we're putting out a 10-year bond, a treasury bond.
And to make it go, we have to put 6,000 units in.
We've got to put 6,000 units in.
Well, it ought to be less than six.
It's too high.
We ought to be on long-term bonds.
We ought to be for the last nine and a half right now.
But we're not.
And so we've got to get these long-term, intermediate long-term breaks down.
And it won't be good.
You know, it's not going to be good for everyone.
There's just something I've heard in it that it's going to cause the damage here.
Right now, frankly, they don't know any better.
I'm not referring, I'm not referring to the kind we know and are in Texas.
No, I'm referring to other kinds of so-called big business men.
And the big bankers are all, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.
Our budget is expansionary.
We've given them the investment tax credit.
We have given them price, wage, and tolls for the same money.
We were able to narrow it down for the generally attractive interest rate.
Now, here they sit.
And they're just looking for reasons not to do things.
You know what the reason is?
For a long, too long a period of time.
Unfortunately, for about 19 years.
uh, 63 to 1969.
Everything went up and up and up.
They had no problems with the bans.
They'd forgotten how to fight each other.
They'd forgotten how to compete.
And they don't want to compete.
That's true.
That's true.
And you're right.
You can't do that.
Well, you can't.
And I can't lie to you.
I mean, I mean, I mean, when you say can't, I mean, say, look, you can't.
I mean, that's being responsible here.
This country is not going down, too.
I don't know the other way, but, uh, sorry, no, exactly.
You know, you came in and said, how long do you want?
And he said, well, they taught me, I, uh, I don't get, I refuse to get tempted by the latest pretext, the latest study, and I refuse to get too damn excited.
The other way, I think that things are moving, and as he would often say, not as fast as we would like.
and i think we can
The only problem we have is taking on this other problem.
And I didn't even have to get down to it.
There's something that makes a goddamn people that put a little bit of heart into that.
I think it comes back to you.
You take it off the campaign, you sit right on this other problem.
You don't try to hire anybody to visit.
Who can you hire?
You can hire anybody that works in New York.
You can hire anybody that works in the middle of New Orleans.
You can hire anybody that works in New York.
You can hire anybody that works in your home.
400.
I'll tell you why that works for them.
You're on a boat trip.
Sure.
And I'll tell you what it looks like.
I'll tell you what it says.
There's a million or two that are growing both right now in Texas.
And it's going to make a difference to everyone.
And so it comes to that.
If you have a lot of jobs, you're going to have, by this fall, you're going to have 81 million people employed.
That's the largest number ever employed in the United States.
So there are a lot of people who are going to have 81.
We find a job that will do more work than it would have worked.
We can go all day straight.
But if it comes to that, I don't think it will.
I don't think it will.
I think it will.
The narrative theory that you were expressing a year ago, you said, I mean, you know what I mean?
Character is four and a half percent.
It was five and three tenths of it.
Five and three tenths goes down to five and two.
That's the question.
What's the latest figure?
They're moving in the right direction.
That's basically what we're just saying in the next year.
What you need to know.
61 was 7.8.
62 was 5.8.
63 was 5.5.
And that went up again next year.
And then it dropped and then it wore.
But the point is, it was still going down.
And so people felt that they didn't worry about the fact that it was way over 5%.
Everybody said it didn't work.
Right.
Because there's not that much yet.
They're really accepting justice for you.
There's a lot out there.
The idea that people are out, you know, suffering, and there's bull in the country.
I don't know what you're thinking.
I don't really, I don't know what you're saying.
What are you worried about in the media?
And the picture that always has been a really funny message for me, what I've already mentioned to you guys, I think,
It's going to be the mean attacks.
He can't make the big attacks against the headlocks.
Very blatant, brutal way.
And, of course, that has a strong, great engine because it has more headlocks than our head.
In other words, some of them get blocked at attack.
He hasn't put it in the category of the head.
All of them in America.
One, you have to try to block the attack.
Second, you have to try to isolate the hatbox to the end, the end of the ramp.
The ramp is there, the hatbox is there.
You've got to make it very small and put all the rest of the people together in the hatbox.
And they're hard, they're hard.
They've got two cars, they've got two of them.
You mentioned, they're talking about two bus stops.
That's the only thing that fundamentally works.
You really ought to be in charge of that.
I think we're down in people, we're an auditory people.
We talk about the things that we can't.
There are things that we can't.
There are things that we can't.
There are things that we can't.
There are things that we can't.
There are things that we can't.
There are things that we can't.
Now, at some point, I think I can handle it.
I don't know whether it's worth it or not.
I'm still a little bit invested.
We ought to be working three years.
towards the creation of the trading block.
And so, I would say, I believe, in my opinion, particularly, yes, well, people are all conscious of traveling, so there's a whole lot of feeling about Latin Americanism.
And I would like for you to, if you would, look back on your work, on my answer, as I said, if you both know, remember, he's like that.
They tell you to just go, so you can restrain, you can get out of bed.
You understand?
It was my friend, Peter.
Peter was in the same lane.
He'd talk all the time.
He was running through the business, and he would be around all the time.
He'd do the planning that they should be doing.
He's an operator.
He's an operator.
He knows how to take care of people.
He knows how to take care of people.
You've got to know the guy that you've got to take care of.
What do you do for the time when there are...
He had to get it very, very good.
He had to fire down.
He had to do it.
He loved it.
people are accommodating to.
But it's very important to know what you're doing.
Because whenever you think about it, your peers are much better talkers.
They're much more persuasive.
You depend on them, and I love them, and I trust.
Now, the actors, on the other hand, usually are monosyllabic, or they're inarticulate at all.
But when he gets out there, he gets it done.
So you tend to underrate what he's going to do.
And, uh, it's a great mystery.
I mean, it's a great mystery, but it's a great mystery.
But, you know, you've got a poem coming up that's going to be very important, I think, in the future.
But this job, I suppose, is very, very, very, very important.
I wanted a job so important.
I will admit, I forgot.
But I was going to work with John.
John didn't move out.
I was going to work with John.
I got a year and a half or once that I had to dress the part, so I had to leave the scene as well.
But I had to change it all.
Oh, I couldn't do it anymore.
And, you know, it can't be no better, right?
But once you've got it there, I don't know if you can do it for yourself, but you can also maybe have the part, and then you can make sure of that.
Basically, if you need to rock it, that's what it is.
Of course, I really got to do it, and that's all it was.
I mean, I had to know a few where I didn't know.
And I was like, oh, thank you.
And so, no, no doubt about it.
No question.
I find you very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
with the election.
I'm not going to worry about that.
We're going to clean this goddamn area up.
You've got a whole year.
You've got a whole year's time.
It needs to be done.
It's going to be done after the 68th.
I'm not sure if you're all aware at all that this team is not going to be going out on the land.
They're going to be on this stuff.
It's got to be cleaned out.
It's all too early.
These two agents, Mike Hood and others, are terrible.
I think, uh,
I heard that thing going on.
I heard it.
I heard it.
I heard it.
I heard it.
I heard it.
Yes, and I go, and I go, and I go, and I go, and I go, and I go.
I'd like you to consider the possibility of this going forward.
Before it takes place, the enormous amount of privacy that we have has totally changed because it's been a year ago.
You've got automobiles.
You've got golf courses.
You've got investments.
And I can drink as well.
I can sit.
The thing is, you need to not go into the place and say, don't go to the hotel where you will be, frankly, sent back by the press and by others and so forth and so on.
You know what I mean?
I don't really want to lie.
What I mean in this place is that it has total price.
In other words, there are those big-time, big-spot men
There's five houses in the room.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
But it was the first time y'all were here.
So I think we owe you an apology.
I had to take it to Bob Calder and ask him about going to camp.
We did not realize y'all were going to be there.
We were just thinking about it.
No, I didn't think about it.
Because it was the first time.
It was the first time.
It was the first time.
It was the first time.
But we didn't see it.
It was beautiful this time of year.
And you might like the...
I know I can't really talk about it.
I don't want to talk about it, but I got my brother to talk about
And I hope you want to go after that.
And you're talking about what?
Thank you.
Judge, I'm going to be here for a long, long time.
We have a meeting tomorrow at the top of the department.
We'll be here this morning.
What do you do?
You're doing fine.
I think it's the holiday school.
How do you find it?
Don't you know yet?
Well, I don't know.
I don't know.
You can.
What we can do is go to Florida, get here at 9 or 10.
I speak at a dinner, a volunteer dinner or something like that.
And we go down around 9 or 10 o'clock.
We're out there.
We're out there.
We're out there.
We're out there.
No, no, no, no.
Look, you see, you can say anything you want, but my point is that maybe the best thing for you to do, so you get a feel of it, is to go down to Maine and look for older children.
Try to get you to go to a community.
Maybe, don't go out there, but maybe just a little too isolated.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
What I mean, if I could say that people are awful close, but the thing is, if you take a lot of charge, if you like charge, a lot of charge, you just come over and find a way for most of us to come out of this area.
You know, we need to be in the world.
But you've got to know so...
Well, the Coast Guard was there.
The Coast Guard sure as hell didn't speak, but they took it away.
We'll get back to you, Ron.