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Conversation 663-007

TapeTape 663StartTuesday, February 1, 1972 at 5:35 PMEndTuesday, February 1, 1972 at 5:36 PMTape start time02:57:15Tape end time02:58:28ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ziegler, Ronald L.Recording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon met with Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler to coordinate messaging regarding welfare reform and the administration's stance on state-level experimentation. They discussed recent interactions with Ronald Reagan and Washington Governor Daniel J. Evans, focusing on maintaining administrative control over welfare funding and federal waivers. The discussion aimed to ensure consistent public remarks during upcoming press conferences and Senate Finance Committee engagements.

Welfare reformRonald ReaganState waiversPublic relationsDaniel J. EvansSenate Finance Committee
AudioNARA Description

On February 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:35 pm to 5:36 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 663-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 663-7

Date: February 1, 1972
Time: 5:35 pm - 5:36 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

     President’s schedule
          -Recent meeting with Ronald W. Reagan
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)



           -Ziegler’s press conference comments
                -Welfare reform
                -Reagan
                       -Finance Committee
                       -Experimentation
                             -Waivers in California, New York
                -Reagan, Daniel J. Evans
                       -Dock strike

Ziegler left at 5:36 pm.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

I said if you were, if you wanted to hear him, you'd break his fuse on me.
The difference between you and the Finance Committee, your interest is to move it over to the Fed Center by receiving the money.
In fact, this has been called down.
You support the program, and you sit on this.
I said it over and over again.
We're not against the experiment, because of the waivers in California and New York, but I didn't want those money to go out.
So I sort of left room for the experiment to be presented, and we moved to the Fed Center.
We're fine.
And Reagan and Evans did not get into the welfare scheme when they went to see Price.
They said, right, they need a doctor.
All right, good.
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