Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 664 › Conversation 664-001

Nixon with unidentified visitors in the Oval Office on China

Wednesday, February 2, 1972 · 8:51 AM–9:10 AM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation664-001 on Tape 664 (tape position 00:15:41–00:16:51)StartWednesday, February 2, 1972 at 8:51 AMEndWednesday, February 2, 1972 at 9:10 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 664-001 ↗

President Nixon discusses political strategy and the anticipated public reaction to his upcoming diplomatic visit to China with a White House operator. He expresses confidence that the trip will be viewed favorably, emphasizing that the mission serves as a diplomatic opening rather than a final conclusion. The conversation also touches upon domestic political challenges, specifically mentioning internal frustrations regarding Senator Kenneth Keating.

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15:48I mean from a domestic standpoint, that's all he writes about domestic politics.
15:50No, virtually no.
15:53No, we get away with that.
15:56When I talked to Nelson about Keating yesterday, he was babbling all over the place.
16:02It was a tremendous thing to watch.
16:06You know something that we've got to bear in mind?
16:08I don't want everything I know, job, whatever, but the... the... the character challenge is just when I have one massive
16:22I don't think it's going to be unfavorable.
16:26I just can't.
16:27It's going to be favorable.
16:30Unless these Chinese let us down completely, they're going to let these people in cotton wool.
16:37It's just going to be such a... You've laid the groundwork awfully well for this.
16:47This is an opening, not a conclusion.
16:50It's not too expected.

On February 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:51 am and 9:10 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 664-001 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 664-1

Date: February 2, 1972
Time: Unknown between 8:51 am and 9:10 am
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with the White House operator.

[See Conversation No. 20-16]
  • 020-016 8:51 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:51 am and 9:10 am.
  • 020-017 9:10 AM · 58 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles S. Gubser talked on the telephone from 9:10 am to 9:13 am.
  • 664-002 9:10 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles S. Gubser met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:10 am to 9:13 am.
  • 020-018 9:13 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:13 am and 9:14 am.
  • 664-003 9:13 AM · 34 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:13 am and 9:14 am.
  • 664-004 9:13 AM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:13 am and 9:14 am.
  • 020-019 9:14 AM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thomas N. Downing talked on the telephone from 9:14 am to 9:15 am.
  • 664-005 9:14 AM · 46 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thomas N. Downing met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:14 am to 9:15 am.

Conversation 664-001, February 2, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/664-001 (accessed October 12, 2026).