On March 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Kenneth W. Clawson, White House operator, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:48 pm and 6:03 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 684-001 of the White House Tapes.
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or let me find out, let me find out about it.
I think we'll find that that is the most that anybody could ever do.
The thing we've got to do, Mr. President, we're just an area.
We're just going to stay with it full time, just to keep hammering away.
I talked to Bob Griffin today.
I gave him three important points, which the same ones I gave you, Vice President, to take after the break.
And Bob said...
He said, is that true?
Is our assistant minority leader?
I said, yes, it's true.
And he said, well, I'll do a speech.
The difficulty is our side isn't as free.
But when you talk to them and you explain the nature of the contribution, the absence of any evidence of wrongdoing, and the fact that this was a damn tough settlement, then we get our goals.
Basically, I think the lack of one is important.
I think if we get Judge McLaren on Meet the Press on Sunday, he might make those very points.
He's good.
He's good, but he's totally honest, totally doctrinaire, totally fanatic in regard to this sort of thing.
He really is.
He believes it.
He's not my friend.
I'm not going to do anything.
He's very accurate.
He's very accurate.
He knows that one.
But he's good at it, so he thinks it's good to never get it wrong.
Jim, this is, I think, a good friend.
We'll give it a whirl of this.
I would just say this one final thing.
One of the biggest surprises to me in this event, fortunately for me, it came home in the first month of my working for you, is this, is that it's incredibly incredible to me how the government is unable to draw together the various aspects of a thing like this quickly and be able to react quickly.
Because in the end, I think we're going to look back and see that that's the answer to the way these things got into runaway conditions.
But for some reason, we didn't know the facts until we were scared to listen to some of the information.
I see your point.
With Wilson out there in the bushes, I guess, were you worried about that?
What else?
Well, the Attorney General got me one night at home, but when this first broke at about 11 o'clock, I came in to meet with him.
We set out that night, and we started discovering
that there's 20 people involved, and we were, we figured we better talk to everybody before we jump really headlong in.
You know, a lot of folks here have been involved in the Conventional Regents.
Sure.
A lot of people have been involved in the Antitrust Policy Study of the United States.
That's right, that's right.
And the first litigation we've had, of course, we didn't.
It wasn't until Dick went to the hearings to be resumed that we thought we had a problem.
At that point, the other side had pretty well lined up.
In retrospect, you think he was correct?
Yes, because I think it would have happened anyway.
I don't think they would have been correct.
You don't agree with Raul Johnson that he has some chance for confirmation?
I think his chance is 50-50.
At that time?
Yes.
Unless he's pregnant.
Which should, yeah.
But let me say, he's not going to be withdrawing.
I shouldn't be able to fight it till hell freezes over.
I shouldn't be.
I'm not going to bully him passionately.
I'm not going to cheat on him.
Oh, I agree.
Completely.
And I have an honest man, Larry, here.
The other thing I was going to say is that I can't do it.
I don't know how we would separate her ever again.
This group and this group.
I don't think, I don't see any way that she would do it.
She, she could do it.
She would.
That's what I'm still afraid that she's, I wonder if Louie and I, I think he was pretty close to her in many ways.
He must have met you.
He was down at the band party.
But look, there,
It wasn't heated, and that's where they all met, and they're sucking dirt like this.
You know, that's what's ridiculous is the conversation is supposed to change.
I went to that party once.
Horrible.
I told them, I said, you have 300 people that are drinking toddies, and you don't know how much that they drink.
And then you're just reeling around in the morning.
Those people drink in the morning.
Always looks sillier than even at night.
And the idea that she had a serious conversation with John Mitch or anybody else at that party is ridiculous.
Impossible.
Impossible.
And that's where she's supposed to have the conversation.
That's right.
That is an easier thing to do.
And if you know Mitch, if you know very well that he's going to have a serious conversation with anybody at the party.
No.
Just look at him.
As we get into the election year, we're going to have to jump on these fans.
This one, they had a head start on us before we really knew what was happening.
We didn't know what was happening.
Well, I don't know.
It's a stupid question.
The other part of the question is, by Saturday, we had five weeks fighting back.
Friday was it, but...
But the press was building it, was grinding some of the fences.
Actually, his first two days on the stand was superb.
Yeah.
But it didn't... You mean last week?
Yes, well, the first, let's see, when did he go up?
The first day that he was testified, which was a Thursday, wasn't it?
Yes.
It was a weekend night in Florida.
Yes, it is.
Because it was that night that I wanted to mention it was his first day.
He was hitting it right out of the ballpark.
Well, I appreciate you doing that.
It's a lively interest for us in this camp.
It's a lively interest for us to, of course, try to understand around here.
But we'll fight with the game, too, one day.
You asked Ken when we first came out, Mr. President, if I'd sell it in a month.
I used to consider myself a hardy, tough nut cutter, but this photo... Do you know what you mean?
Yeah, he puts me to shame once he puts me to shame.
Well, that's sort of the story.
We're supposed to be objective members of the press and deliberately involved.
Well, very much.
It's under the guise of objectivity, obviously.
Well, I don't feel much like sitting around getting hit in the head.
I'd like to give it a few licks ourselves, and that's what we're trying to do.
Your best hope at the present time, dear beard, dear beard secretary, well, and who else?
You've got somebody to testify to that effect.
Uh, and, uh, who else do you see?
You can't, I don't see any witnesses, Judge, or, you know.
No?
No, he won't testify, I'm sure.
Unless the investigator, the secretary, will never get it.
Uh, I think I would put on Anderson, Secretary, if I could ever get it, because you can't do any harm.
That's right.
We're going to try to get it.
Well, I'd put her off.
I'd put her on if she might give evidence.
Well, we found this evidence, that Anderson last week said that he would ask, do you have any relationship with the appearance of lobbyists and...
Jack Anderson, our natural ally.
So we found out that on the 27th of January of this year, he attended a party with Peter Beard at the Carleton Hotel for the bartending that Peter Beard put up.
So we should recognize the bartenders.
You know, Peter was, you know, she spent so much time with him, she'd be hollowing away for it.
Well, she was a regular customer.
And there's a pattern of information that we think we can develop.
We're going to try to kill.
If we can get her, we'll get on the stand.
Conceivably, she might be scared to purge it herself.
If we bring the secretary back from Toronto, if Dita Beard breaks down and tells the truth,
We had all the testimony of the people in the ITT office, but they never saw this moment.
Her story, her original story, falls apart.
She says she handed it to Marion.
The law groups at Marion wasn't in the office that day.
It wasn't physically present.
She said she stood over her secretary and dictated it.
Her secretary said that's not true, that she never dictated it.
She typed it up and gave it to her.
Uh, they're just in many holes here, and if any one of them opens up, then we are able to find who did write that one off.
Well, the damn thing wasn't even typed in the Secretary's typewriter when you checked in.
Well, that, they first said no, and then I come back and said yes.
Wow.
So that's been established.
So then how is it that the Secretary says that she can't remember having typed this particular part?
Well, how did they only get it in there then?
Beat it very long back and put it in one day.
Redid it on her own typewriter.
Wow.
That's what we, well, that's what you may think, but thank God, it's a very simple thing to prove if you haven't actually done that yet.
In terms of what it was that, who typed it.
It, you can easily prove, even if it's on the same typewriter, whether he or her typewriter did the typewriting, or rather, hell, I did all this in the his case.
I said, well, does she touch it herself?
Yes, because each person has a different touch and a typewriter.
Is that true?
I don't know what you're talking about.
Any typewriter there is.
Any typewriter there is.
It can be proved.
But the thing you do is to find something that you would hear this type herself.
and checking on this to find something that her secretary has typed and checking against this, then you may find something interesting.
Right?
Not only the typewriters, which is the story of this case, not only the typewriters have characteristics, but the typists have characteristics.
There's a little bit of pressure that's over this.
It's not true.
That's right.
And you can also tell if one thing has been typed
today and other things typed on the same page in the form.
Now, who's working on the typewriting?
So let's get at it.
Did I get some work on that?
That's physical evidence that you can prove.
That's the investigators, and that's what the intel was supposed to be.
I don't know if they're asking those specific questions now, but let's find out what you think.
It's like, all right, who was this type?
I did it here.
Or was it type of the secretary?
Now, the secretary typed it, and forget it.
She's bad with it.
She just had a bad memory.
On the other hand, it was Peter Beard who typed it.
And you've got a location of the town on there.
I don't know, maybe a back trail.
That's where it's going after.
I would hope that they had this thing now for four days.
I would hope they'd look at that.
I haven't asked them that question.
I hope they're going to investigate, because that is the simplest thing.
Good God, if I could do it 25 years ago in this case, we don't have nearly the technical things we have.
Now these guys should do it today.
So we broke the case?
The firm that we brought in, Mr. President, is the same one that proved the accused, the related fraud.
But don't you agree that typing is so sensitive that you can tell that an individual is typing using exactly the same typewriter?
What you need is what you've got to use to see what the individual is on that same typewriter.
Well, let's run that one out.
I don't know if you've got anything else either here, but I'd like you to find a letter.
Oh, yes.
Do we know what we used?
We used what really sucked the history.
The interesting thing was that Priscilla did tie it into a thing and tried to deny it.
Unfortunately for her, on that same typewriter, the old Woodstock, written
an application for her child to go to a prep school.
We found the letter.
Having found the letter, we checked it.
It was the same typewriter.
And it was the same typecut to the same typewriter, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
You counted it.
Well, there's also misspelling in this letter.
That's a word that is commonly misspelled, commitment.
And the secretary being a secretary, checking other things she had done.
She doesn't still commit with the way it's said in this letter.
That's important.
That would not be decisive.
If I could see it, I could say, well, I just misspelled it this time.
But believe me, you check the type.
Let's get these typewriting experts together on this one.
You know what you should do, Carol, is get them over here, get them, meet them somewhere, so they're not over here.
Meet them somewhere.
Don't meet them in any place.
Just get them to go.
But I think you ought to just check that out.
I have a feeling it's a fraud, too, wouldn't you say?
Yes, I do.
Is that your feeling, your gut reaction?
That is my reaction, and I think our investigators feel that someone else inside of ITT may be responsible.
Well, that would be, with what motive?
Somebody trying to get rid of you?
That's right.
But here to watch the prophecy, oh God, what a lousy damn thing.
That's right.
One of the things I said, what did he, what's his name?
Marion.
Marion?
Could be, but I doubt it.
Because Bill...
I don't know any of these people, but I just wonder.
No, I don't know Bill.
I didn't touch anyone, everybody.
He's not, Bill isn't writing them to you, but he wouldn't count them this way.
He wouldn't conspire this way.
No.
Never underestimate the ability of the human animal to conspire this way.
Truth of that.
Oh wait, that one is just full of the snakes, my guess.
Well, this particular company has picked up more angers out of the disease.
They just, every damn...
Yeah, that's a very close date.
And talking with the investigator.
And you do say this was typed on the secretary's typewriter.
How the hell did he get it?
He got into her office and typed it on the typewriter.
It's not a matter of getting into her office.
She'd come in on a Saturday or Sunday, any day that the office is closed.
The other curious thing that my experience to my theory is that she never was in that office on a Saturday in her whole career at IT&P until January 22nd of this year.
And this was when it was supposed to be typed?
Well, yeah.
She went out on Saturday for an hour on Saturday afternoon, and that's unusual.
It's unusual.
She never did.
Five days later was the party for the bartender.
Did she know?
Yes.
Did she know that we know that she was in the office on Saturday afternoon?
Yes, sir.
Or you said so?
No, no.
She was logged in by the security guard in the building.
So that's when you think the job was done?
That's what I think it was done.
By her.
Could have been done by her.
Could have been done by somebody else.
Oh, so here it hangs.
Here it hangs.
And you're not going to be able to prove anything.
So what do they do?
Just go on?
Continue to have hearings?
Well, I have two months.
No, let monkeys die.
No, we just can't afford that.
We can't afford that at all.
Sir, they won't do that, Mr. President, in the sense that they're going to look at what it's worth to them, which is over the next two weeks, if we don't turn it around.
And then they'll drop it.
And let monkeys stay on the Senate calendar for as long as they feel like it.
Sure.
But we've got to turn it around, either by discrediting the case or by just every day having our fellas bat back at them.
It's tough because the- They won't do it.
Well, we'll get our guys to do it, but- That's all, they won't get covered.
They won't get covered.
I know.
We need to try as hard as we can.
Ken wrote a beautiful release for Bud Dole.
We did get some coverage over the weekend, but the papers spiked about it.
The Washington Post didn't credit it.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
The Times didn't.
Yes, on his request to find hold of the vessel.
What do you see with that great scramble to give all the money that he can use?
They're afraid after that.
Sure.
Well, I appreciate your comments.
I know that you're not going to be able to break it, believe me, unless you get evidence that will make the press look bad, because it's not there yet.
Well, they've been looking hard for about three months to sign it.
Well, that's about the way you take it.
You have to take it in the meantime.
We're going to have a decent man kill him.
That's what we're really concerned about.
Yeah.
I mean, he's right.
Do you want the jury?
Yes.
You can kill us on another two or three months.
I had him over here Friday night to talk about that statement.
He's a different man.
His mind isn't working well.
You can see that he's just emotional.
And he's a strong man, too.
Yeah, but you know that.
You know what hurts the most is a charge that's false.
And if you're guilty of something, it's a funny thing, if you're able in some way to build up barriers, I guess, that are defenses that the Coral Foundation knows are goddamn outrageous, is what the hell is wrong here?
And I wrote a little letter to James.
A little letter, because his...
I'm afraid his morale was down.
He wasn't thinking clearly, and he was... Must resign.
Just kind of bewildered about it.
That's what everybody's first temptation is, to resign.
You know, you look back, it's a very different kind of a case, and I never forget a lot of guys talking about it.
And, of course, Adams, who was a poor man, took medicine.
And Jerry Burson said, the second part was, it was a cheat bike, and I was good with it.
But nevertheless, Tyson, I think, had a terrible heat.
It was a bad year for him.
He had his stroke.
And it was a bad year, even on the only, all the rest of them.
Everybody was jumping on all the Adams, including Sons, Raiders, and the rest of them.
Well, my view of him was probably the same.
I mean, certainly, that was foolish.
But he was not real.
You couldn't touch that guy.
Well, he was no friend of mine, but I knew about him.
Before I start, I don't know Christ, but it's a terrible thing to see a man destroyed when he is not really guilty.
When they're guilty, I will put capital punishment.
But when they're not guilty, if I've got on him for attacking the attackers, that's what people is going to do.
Go ahead and cut your balls off.
Thank you for having me in.
Well, good.
Have fun.
Glad to be with you.
Don't let it soften you up, you know.
I always got to get the name back.
I don't want to get you out after all of this trouble.
I heard you three times.
Thank you.
They may take you back.
No, sir.
I signed on for the full five years.
Well, call me all right.
We'll take you back.
All right.
I just wanted to mention this person, Jack Innes, and got invited to do a...
I used to do this.
I would have thought they would have done very poorly if I was to do that because they were really admiring that much.
Well, he's not one of your fellows.
Well, it seems to me that they just had near impossible to get any emphasis in the job.
No, I don't think so.
I know you were.
I certainly began to work in this typewriting thing.
Well, they did.
Well, we're going to work on that site.
I say it's old stuff.
Well, I didn't know what to ask them.
But they may work on it.
The thing that goes back to his day, Mr. President, is that they entertained him, which is a very good idea.
He is now convinced they said that the metal was ruined.
And I've been, I've been positive of that for a week now.
I don't know how they've proven it because I haven't, or what proof they have because I haven't gotten their report.
I have to deal secure so either Ken kills him to a friend of his, any of them.
Yeah.
Or I get to my team.
Well, I'm just going to identify you.
I'm really weak.
I'm sorry.
It seems to be leveling mainly toward climate change.
I don't see much of a press attacking the president on that.
I think they're a little afraid of that.
They don't really believe that, or do they?
I don't know.
Your point is they're afraid.
Anderson may have just started last week breaking a big precedent, but I think they're definitely afraid of it.
And I couldn't, they aren't going to do that.
It's going to be, the fellow that got arrested, and I don't want to say this in front of Kim, because I don't tell them everything that I know.
They're going to love those admissions.
They're going to love those admissions.
And the reason that we didn't fight back as fast as we normally would... We did not fight back.
You're joking.
Well, I spent the night where it was stressful to visit until about 3 or 4 in the morning.
And the more that I talked to them, and the more that I gathered our files, the less inclined I was to...
I didn't want to jump back and eventually say something that could lead to the impeachment.
Yeah, well, let's face it, Mitchell was, did disqualify himself in the case.
I don't know whether he knew about the contribution.
Well, you see, there's a memorandum that he had a copy of that disclosed the details of the contribution well before the ITP settled.
Oh.
And the National knew about the contribution?
Well, they were never going to do anything to do with the settlement.
That was an idiot at that time.
I don't know.
I mean, he better.
Because everybody was telling him to get the damn case settled.
That's all everybody was telling him to do.
Get the goddamn thing done.
Remember, everybody were planning it.
When I wrote it in here, day after day, I wrote myself the role.
You remember it.
Oh, I remember.
I remember the detail.
But the problem is...
I don't want to mention any trouble there.
Well, that's... As I say, the reason, and I didn't say this with Ken here, I wouldn't, but the reason that the person...
Yes, sir.
Well, he's going to have to admit that he had a meeting with Jimmy, which, see, he's already said publicly he didn't.
He said publicly that I disqualified myself from the case.
When did he have a meeting?
1970, August 4th.
After he disqualified himself?
Well, after.
But what the hell did he have a meeting about?
Well, he will say that they discussed really the policy issue involved in it.
Prosecuting and any trespassing on the grounds of Bigness alone.
That's right.
That's all.
That's all.
That's all the reason I think we ever did discuss the cases.
You know, Mitch never got into lots and lots of cases.
I know.
Yeah, I'm kidding.
He's right.
We were all, you remember, we sat at that.
You were in the meeting here when we discussed this business.
Business alone is not a reason to have it.
That's what the fire was all about.
We see it right here.
First of all, it was the only thing I ever had to do.
In fact, we never discussed that case.
No, we were very careful when we discussed that case.
Yeah, I didn't know.
But what does Mitchell say?
Well, Mitchell, all he can say is that he discussed it as a policy issue.
The trouble is that will...
He can say that Janine raised it with him when he said, oh, we're discussing policy.
Yeah, which is...
He mentioned that eventually they discussed the case.
Right.
So then what happens?
That's all that we think will come out of it.
If Reineke's statement that he told Mitchell about the $400,000...
private settlement is effectively repudiated, and why he has repudiated himself publicly.
He must be stupid.
Oh, Jesus.
Unbelievably stupid.
He's always the one who's stupid.
I don't think that's stupid.
No, no question about it.
And...
Sorry.
What...
I think it's genre.
He's such a celebrity.
Well, I think it would... No, I think it would be...
The problem is that...
You can't tell any of these, I mean, it's preposterous to think of a clue for a clue.
The problem is that you keep showing evidence that... Not that you didn't talk to everybody, John.
Oh, my God.
If John didn't talk to Blanigan, did he talk to you?
No, he didn't.
You're looking at where?
Where?
John's office on the, you know, August of 1970.
And John came down to talk to me about the general problem.
Right.
and get McLaren in line.
That's the only thing we were ever trying to do.
Well, interestingly, I got out from Janine, and I've asked her to put this out today, that he saw a Jack Brooks, Congressman Delcar from Texas.
He saw a Vance Harkey.
He saw a Phil Hart.
He saw a Manny Sella.
He saw a Peter Radina.
So he not only fed with everybody in the administration, he fed with every Democrat on Capitol Hill.
So it's, the only thing that has made me feel as the first few days that Mitchell Brown had posted the very damaging files that we were able to, some of which we have- Whose files?
Both some of the lawyers and I can't get yours up.
No, I mean, I'm talking about, you mean the.
Well, our clients have been hearing the violence.
How the hell are they going to get those in there?
They're not going to be able to get those, are they?
No, they can't get ours, but the question would be whether.
Whether or not they're not planning to talk to them, whether or not you talk to them, whether or not I'm ready to talk to them, it's true.
Right.
But don't you just say yes?
He came in, we saw him, we said it's a matter for the Justice Department to know about it.
I just want to tell you, what I'm talking about is our memorandum from the White House to the Justice Department saying do this or don't do that.
Not that there's anything in America that's wrong with that.
That isn't the problem.
The problem is that it merely enables them to build a case on the Hill if those files still exist in justice.
In addition to which, the IT and T models are devastating some.
Because Janine is the kind of woman who can come in and talk to you for an hour, and you can sit loud saying a word, and give her back and say, I really stole so-and-so.
Someone's always going to help us.
You mean what you're talking about by files?
You mean from you, your justice?
No.
So far, the only ones I have are...
Yes, sir.
No.
Not in the case.
You're right in the case.
Yes, sir.
But nothing that you would care about.
I mean, nothing that wouldn't be a fairly normal practice if you had a major...
If you have a case, Mr. President, that is landmark anti-crisis law, that represents the policy of the administration, do you pursue maintenance or don't you?
Sure.
Which we have decided not to pursue.
Sure.
I understand there was something from Connelly or to him or something.
Meeting with Connelly.
Who met?
She did.
When was it ended, and when?
Well, all of these meetings took place between July 1970 and July 1971, over a 12-month period.
So he met on the phone?
Yes, sir.
He probably put that on his phone.
And Garrity met with Agnew.
And that's when the phone rang.
Who's Garrity?
Ned Garrity.
He's their senior vice president.
He met with the place person.
Yeah.
Now all of that is in a file of this team.
That's what Kennedy's next on call on all these reasons.
Yeah, I think he knows.
He can't call that.
I think he knows that there's more there than he's able to get his hands on.
Or maybe he's been leaked some things.
But the SEC files, they had seen it in the turf.
But thus far, ICT has not given them and probably will not give them until we see them soon.
Let me prove all the good gentlemen around to the door.
You see, we find that it's inevitable, inevitable, inevitable.
It's perfectly legitimate, perfectly right.
And we've got files, that's high, and company after company, and that's all there is to it.
And all, and so what makes this matter?
One stinking goddamn contribution to Bob Wilson's silly committee.
I think that's exactly what it is.
That's all there is to it, and the goddamn, I think the mistake is made, if I may say so, is that, and I must say, I,
I spoke to Pastor Hall and raised this point and strongly recommend against it.
Since somebody had said to him, I think it was that student of mine, that we ought to return the congregation.
I promise you.
That's more important to say that.
The more important argument is that we don't give a goddamn what to do with Cynthia.
We really don't.
But there were memoranda from people in the White House who
mentioned predating the itt settlement that deal with the specifics of the convention financing including itt and the trouble is that copies of those things
They were just reporting what San Diego was talking about.
But the point is that they were passing information around.
All these damn people with their hands in the air.
So they'll be...
I don't know.
I don't frankly know how you can possibly get the jury knocked off after shot running.
It's just going to go on and on.
It'll go on and on.
I'm glad you didn't break one of these witnesses.
We really need to be hard-headed about it.
To be absolutely realistic.
We have two ways to go.
We have the way of fighting back every day.
And just raise hell.
claim smear, claim innuendos.
That's one way.
The other way is a dramatic break in the case.
And we're either going to get that through Dita Beard, Jack Anderson's secretary, or the one possibility, the other possibility is at the right time, we still might want to bring Clint East out publicly to say, look, my confirmation is one thing, but all these other people...
And that would have a very dramatic effect.
Dick didn't have the heart for it.
But he made it better as he puts himself in the store and resigns?
No, no, he would give that impression.
He would say, I really don't give a damn.
And Harry's not?
I think he would get a lot of senators who would say, well, this poor bastard's taken just enough punishment.
If you did it at the right time, if you did it when they had really carried it just almost a step too far, as they did Thursday, I think.
Thursday and Friday, they were almost going too far.
You notice a very interesting thing.
I think you'll learn more from the other side of the election.
Not one of them has spoken on this IPP case since Friday.
I think they know that on Friday, they almost overreached.
They almost got to the point where they were.
They dragged your name in fourth-hand here, Serge.
They had anybody in check?
Yes, sir.
Jerry Ford?
Yeah, I mentioned him.
Mitchell did?
He was a party member.
Well, Ford didn't, and Scott was going to do it today.
I don't know whether he has to.
He promised he would.
But Ford put out a nut cover yesterday.
Just where he stole it.
I can see the problem.
In other words, there's just too many people in the thing, and that's just unfortunate.
So, but you know, Chuck, that's going to be true of anything they bring up.
We've got memoranda all over the place here.
I mean, they're case after case.
In fact, it's one of the reasons that I wanted to find them and knock off those business emergencies happening.
I think you should knock those off.
They're going to flare up, you know.
Well, those haven't been business.
They've been labor.
I know.
I don't think we should have anything going.
From now on, from now on, I would have nothing of that sort.
You understand?
We should have no big business involved at all.
I don't think he should.
No.
He should again be seen with the NAM.
Not in my fault.
Don't worry about it.
But I don't want to get such a reason.
I don't want anybody to get a reason.
I just wouldn't have any big businessmen in the White House.
Screw them.
They can't be for us now.
They owe it.
Do you know why?
The only political... We're not going to be hurt by this on the question of honesty or dishonesty because no one in here has been...
I mean, no one in the administration has done anything dishonest.
That's our vulnerability.
And you'll see.
Well, I don't know if we'll be hurt that much.
I think the people who charge that...
There are people who aren't with us anyway.
There is that issue.
And, of course, they're challenging it.
But wait until Muskie reveals his finances this week.
He's very clever, though.
He's only revealing what he's trying to do.
In general, that'll allow all of his, you know, put all of his, you know, prostitutes, you know, it's easy.
We can't reveal ours, actually, though.
And have no reason to.
I think you're simply saying that we'll comply with the law, and the president is not campaigning in any of these frameworks, period.
Absolutely.
Let's take a hard line.
We're going to comply with the law on that one.
And if there's any question on that, we will totally reply.
We will start at 8.07.
That's what I told him to do.
Now, that's the only...
If I get the names out before you have to.
That's right.
Clawson came up with a great idea.
He's got the press.
He's already alerted a couple of friends in the press through intermediaries to make the point that must be his hiding several of his contributions that we know about that he won't report.
uh and they didn't get that question in the press and the outside was willing to report something can we have anybody been through that yes sir yes sir i've got a fellow who has known muskie for years he's traveling and keeps me fully posted
Oh, the next week, on Tuesday, or on Wednesday, the Hampshire became the lead.
On Thursday, the Barnes became the lead.
Frankly, the Parish Channel, I think.
The Parish Channel was the best year of the week, I'm sorry.
I think the IT&T thing is, oh, that would be Holly Henshaw, there it is.
No, but I can remember in the Sherman Adams case, I used to curse with what Rick Sullivan was doing.
Right.
And being in this city, you...
They're terribly sensitive to it, but you get out beyond, and it's not the same.
I had a very unpleasant role in there, Eisenhower.
Couldn't bring himself to talk when I had to.
But be that as it may, I'm sure he's never been, because he can't be to go beyond.
But if I point it instead, it was a mistake.
But going back, it was a mistake, because after all, Davidson fought and died for Eisenhower.
He was a cold...
And very, very, frankly, mean man.
And probably deserved what he got.
I mean, deserved what he got in terms of people turning on him, like Bridges Hayden.
Probably for all reasons, jealousy.
But the point is that Damon Adams was an honest man.
And it was wrong to drive him out of government with a cloud over his head.
Do you agree or not?
I agree.
I agree with the facts.
I still disagree.
Evan's one problem with this person was that he knew goddamn well that nothing would get to him, see?
And he wouldn't do anything in front of him.
And he was so sure of this that he didn't worry about the appearance.
That's right.
And it just goes like that.
All the people began to be mixed up with this shoddy, frantic cop.
So, I never messed with him.
Apparently, he was a terrible...
He knew everybody by the name of the cop.
You know, a big thing for everybody.
You know, some of our, some of our, our, we're just doing, some of our Jewish friends, they have to pay a lot.
They think they want to buy you with something.
It's in their favor.
Poor old house.
No, it was wrong.
It was wrong.
They want you.
It's a very wrong thing to do.
I'm sorry about it.
But we're not going to do it.
Let me get up.
Let me get up.
Let me get up.
you're more parallel with that case well except if i might not say it if i dropped the climbing shoes with taylor's hearing i'd do it he wouldn't but this hearing is going to go on and on and on if you would have dropped climbing sisters he would be for the rest of this year
The finance issue would be very much alive because it would be an admission.
It would still be an issue.
Let it be.
We'll say they're smearing.
We've got a yellow smear.
Just call it a smear.
Christ, look at McCartney.
How they destroyed McCartney.
The facts.
Hell no.
McCartney was right about at least half the stuff.
They destroyed McCartney by screaming smear.
They damn near destroyed me in the in his case, Stanley.
What?
Very true.
And seven times in this office said, Rick Herring.
Smeared.
Smeared.
Smeared.
The Washington Post had it for us virtually every day the entire time.
And then they pushed my arm.
They had not only the hearings, but the trial for two years.
And they were yelled and smeared.
And then finally the typewriter convicted the son of a bitch.
He was killed anyway.
And I had to sell it.
But otherwise, I would have gone down the tube.
You see my wife?
They used to talk to the facts in the S.K.
case, anybody that read the first, his, Chambers' confrontation in that hotel room where he said, I had to see his teeth before I could recognize some of it, should talk to his dad.
And, uh, that was fine.
There's no question.
But nevertheless, everybody who hits the line, everybody, but these, this press, 90% of
They hated the committee so, they were so pro-its, and some of them, so soft on communists, that they, if I had to, it's a mock wonder that I survived, or how I survived, by God, by proving the case, let's say, to stay with it, and boy, I counted it.
You talk about the old-timers in the press, that's why they hate my country.
They know Scottie Rust.
Deep down, it's his, but deep down, they know, they know.
And you talk about the... Marcus Childs, he's in that crowd.
Yeah, and a lot of the Jewish... Oh!
For some reason, this was not Jewish.
I don't know, they... Yeah, but that was one... A lot of that, a lot of that, remember, in the other part of the case...
They were all Jewish.
Lee Pressman, that whole gang were Jewish.
It's not to prove anything, but I guess it's to do with those chambers.
But we're all sympathetic to them.
And partly because of the fact that our Jewish side is very pro-war, too.
We don't depend on the Russians as a great patron.
And so we became pro-communist for the wrong reason.
There are other reasons to be pro-communist.
Well, anyway, if you said those things in front of me, I'd let people get depressed and I'd let them get over it.
It's not that the contacts remain out of proportion.
Sure, they'll knock around, but you're not going to stand in your lane.
Well, I know somebody was pointing out that they're in a lane where she was legally saying this isn't great, in effect, because this means it's not going to happen.
No, no, no.
Well, what stays out of China is much more important than what comes out of this case.
What comes out of this case thus far is .
But everybody expects that in the Republican administration.
That doesn't shock many people.
What came out of China was a different impression of you.
I'm confident when Lou Harris gets back from London and gives me his detailed figures, we will find that we've had to have one hell of an increase in personal account with the chief.
You couldn't- Some of the other polls I was about to even, just on the evening, which I know is interesting.
I mean, some of the Minnesota polls say it's a running day, and even on the Minnesota polls, 5% off the NAR.
That's right.
And Bobby Green had it on the day, which went 41-41, which
Great ship.
Take the latest medical data, which is before China.
Before China.
Amazing.
And one of these things.
And then Harris drove about 9% over Muskegon, China.
This is not bad.
Certainly can't with this, and not with this case.
Right now, we feel like we won't do much now.
The reason I don't think Bust is something is that I'd like to general against him.
I think he could make that Kennedy and Pye and Anderson.
I have three new detectives.
The main thing I want you to do is to check on them.
There's a way to do that.
There's a way to do that.
There's a way to do that.
There's a way to do that.
This is actually pretty cool.
I'm impressed with that following.
He's fine.
He's good.
He's cussed out.
He wants to do the job.
Well, I get sorry he still isn't ready for the post.
Maybe he didn't want to print his stuff.
Maybe that's the problem.
Well, they edited it out.
He edited it out.
He was doing other stuff.
He's just a good straight, he's just a tough, good, hard-nosed employer.
He's a hard, he's much better than Clark, because basically he's not so emotional.
He's just a ruthless, tough guy, eye-to-eye, wants to win.
Well, he also, again, he has that feel.
He is.
And he loves to pull in on fun things.
He just relishes it.
Okay, I call up to know that I have an idea, and just...
Thank you, if you'd like that.
Hello.
I just wanted to be sure you knew that we called the governor's office.
We announced today that the pandas were going to Washington.
And that was fine.
We wanted to squeeze some of the letters that were here.
So not quite as old as it could be, but they had written this kind of letter.
And so it's a good story.
We have decided that you're not here.
One thought that we thought was very good, when they get here, we don't want to hear stuff around the first of April here.
We don't want to actually go out, you know.
and to look and well to see whether they are the same kind of habitat basically and you know it's going to be a hell of a story when i start exploring uh victoria
Okay, uh, I'm going to leave.
I'm going to stay here tonight to work with Ehrlichman and, uh, and Martin on the Mustang statement, so I won't be over for dinner.
So you can get something there on TV or something, or anything you like.
Okay.
I'll have to call you back.
Okay.
Bye.
Collin was delighted that the key to scene invitation was all set to go, and then checked with his wife and found he couldn't send it.
But he really appreciates it.
And Mitchell is planning to go probably on the 23rd, which is when you're talking about going.
Well, let's think for a week or a little more.
Think a little bit.
Let's see.
Do you have any idea if I'd like to see the star on the page?
See the what?
The star on the front page.
Anyway, they ran a box.
I know they ran a box.
They ran a box at the top of the page on the left-hand side and told the story about the mating and have a big picture of the panda.
They mentioned the mating.
Did the trikees know?
Neither of us.
They said someone said.
Now he said someone said they have to learn how to make.
But he can't.
They have something Saturday night and something Sunday.
And I know they're having dinner Friday night also because I'm going to up there.
I'd like to get that.
That's done.
Vehicle 30.
That's that.
So we've got that.
You know, I had a problem with the postman, kind of a problem.
He said, like, when Mitchell was up against Friesen, that when he saw Janine, that was perfectly all right.
Well, I don't see why that's any problem.
Janine, he said he didn't see him.
He said he didn't see him.
Or did he have anything to do with the case?
Well, he did.
Janine is a man, my guess is, that it's impossible not to see.
He probably came in and saw Mitchell.
Well, he still didn't do anything with the case in the Justice Department.
That's the point.
with this damn thing.
Oh, good.
My Miranda.
Huge.
Curious attraction.
With Miranda, regarding some special deal over there.
Ten exhibit.
We should have worked it out with Rex so that he, but it seems to me that I, I don't know.
These pictures really aren't seen over here, except by our insiders.
And God, I believe them.
There's a bunch of all these pictures over there.
Yeah, and all the other stuff.
The menus, the chopsticks, they did pick up the menus.
Oh, sure.
Menus, the menus, the place cards, the chopsticks, the place cards, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Let's see.
Degrees, et cetera.
The last man in an Arab zoo died in 1953.
Is it good, though, that I called in?
Sir?
I called in stars.
There are all sorts of memoranda.
There's one in early, my number's in early, blank, et cetera, et cetera, and I can get these files and so forth and so on.
So what the hell is this?
I mean, of course, this has been here all along.
Everybody's...
Well, and he talked, fortunately, talked to a lot of people, talked to everybody he could hold on to.
He was fighting for what he wanted to do.
Chuck says there's only one way to do it.
First, I have said that we're not going to...
You can't have the case to get the client east out of this area.
The theory just doesn't work here.
Well, he's talking, that was his theory way earlier.
Well, it doesn't, he has a period.
Because you drop him, you do two things.
One, you make an innocent man go, and second, you don't stop the hearing.
The second point is that you've got to try to discredit the thing.
And so that's a long shot.
You either do it through Beard, you do it through her secretary, or you do it through Jack Anderson's secretary, or you do it another way.
The third thing is, of course,
just continue to fight and yell, smear, and so forth, and the people get tired of the case, which they have actually will.
My guess is I don't know.
But I gave you one thing today that I would be shocked if they had not already done it.
It seems to me that 10 days in the case, they haven't done this.
They, investigators, even though they're supposed to be the ones who were
Do you know about the characteristics of typewriters?
Do you know that even some electric typewriter, an expert, can tell you whether it has been typed by one person or another?
Yeah, they have a problem on some electrics.
They can't on the select-o-matics.
They can't on the electric typewriters.
If you've done, if you pay them over, it's because of the pressures, the tiny pressures.
You blow up that goddamn thing.
The typewriter experts, they find out.
Now, they say that...
He said it was done on her typewriter?
That's what they now say.
That's the thing.
I understand.
But my point is, I said for Christ's sake, get those investigators checking immediately.
If you see something, either there is a type, check it against it.
Something the secretary has typed, check it against it.
Now, if they could do that, you could bust the cage, slide it over, because that's evidence.
When you have a secretary on the fly, that's one thing.
But that typewriter, remember that's how we killed him?
Yes, sir.
We took the typewriter.
Woodstock.
Woodstock.
And all we took was a typewriter expert.
Here's this, a letter she had written to get Tommy into a school and adoptions.
And it was the same.
The same characteristics that have been done on the same time record.
It isn't just that, though.
But this is a more technical thing.
And it's more difficult than like a calculator.
They're telling me even with an electric, you can tell if the individual, as they type, there's a pressure difference somewhere in that.
I hope that's true.
Well, it is on the kind that has teeth, but see the new electrics have that little wheel, and there they can't tell because it's all... You don't think she was on that kind of thing?
She might have been.
That's what we use mostly here.
That's interesting.
It's her type of thing.
Really, what's going to matter now is what she... Well, the next shot is what she says.
It's a good event.
There's something inside of her.
There's something involved there.
She's involved with Jackie Anderson's secretary.
And there's a, you know, maybe a health payoff involved, too.
You know, Teddy's in the end of the week.
Could be.
But the view of the way it's going, I don't see how I can just continue to delay the press conference until this son of a bitch is over.
I just can't see how potential it was on.
I was sort of thinking last week.
I think maybe after the press conference this week, we can talk about it next week.
Could do that and have covered the IT&T case and then not answer questions on the IT&T and just have covered that last week.
Well, you'll have to wait and see what you get on Dita Beard, too, though.
If they get her.
Well, the doctor said she could.
They can do her either Tuesday or Wednesday.
In Denver?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, she won't be here.
She's shaking out everybody in terms of what she's trying to say.
He's waiting for the very latest ID and DL.
It's a very good shot.
It's just a shambles.
It's a lot of terrible people.
And the gentleman hanging around with the police in there.
Of course, these law enforcement officers are pretty terrible.
Can I ask something about the, are we going to have a church service this Sunday?
If they're leaving, are roses going to make those things up?
I wonder what kind of people we should have.
I don't want to do these goddamn things unless it's going to be worthwhile.
Have we got the, have we got any?
I know that she's probably already done it.
Oh, when did you tell her?
Yesterday.
She works off, you know, her backlog.
What I had is, what are we going to do?
We want assistant secretaries, undersecretaries, congressmen, or what the hell do we want?
You know what I mean?
Conspiracy.
It doesn't make a hell of a lot other than to cover people that haven't been covered.
Congressman, we've done so much on him.
That's what it always helps to have, something we haven't done.
Sure, there are different ones.
I think I'm going to have to go, continue to go through the damnable handshakes, since there are so few of them left.
I don't think I'll change it, you know what I mean?
I think it's one of those things where people will say, ah, I quit shaking.
Some will and some won't.
A lot of them don't know he was tripping on you before.
Yeah, we've heard her talks with Henry Rogers this afternoon.
Oh, with Rogers?
I've talked to Henry.
What about him?
Nothing.
Well, I'm glad he's getting off the stage.
He should be servicing.
You know, he's working his ass off.
I'll tell you, nobody ever writes so much.
He sure did.
Hi.
Hi.
What are you and Halina playing for the night?
Yeah.
I don't know what I'm playing for this.
You've got to stay here.
Rose, I just wanted to tell you the truth.
I don't want to have any of this crap.
I don't want to have it.
Let me put it this way.
I mean, as much as I love them and all the rest, I don't want to do quite as bad.
Well, that's what they still do those on that quarter deal, Secret Service, all the rest.
Well, you've done all that, and I'll do that on Christmas, maybe, but right now...
to the extent that you can.
I know you can't get people from out of town, but get them, because you want to ask them to come here sometimes.
But what I mean is, I think you could this time go for people, if you, for example, got assistant secretaries, people like that you can have.
So you're still, unless they cancel tonight.
Yes, I am.
Oh, you are.
I'm afraid I have to.
I'm afraid that if I don't, because I said it, they don't use you in the kitchen.
There must be some Christ in you, something better than there should.
I'll check right away, so to speak.
What could you, one of the fathers of Angie, or one of them, don't put the choir through?
I mean, they've done that in the last few years.
I go out and have a picture with the choir, and that's enough.
If you have a choir of 40 people, that adds to it.
Like I said, handshaking.
They don't need to come to your lawn.
You think we'd go with oxygen?
See, I was saying...
I don't think I'm talking to half of these people.
You're making fun of me.
Well, then why don't they go, why don't we just have a few people around here and not bother with that?
But it's a mixture.
That's the problem.
I understand.
You know, I like to go for everybody, but it just doesn't, it just is not worth the time.
I want that energy to shake hands, you know, with every, you know, this photographer.
Yeah, there's very few of those.
I love it.
It's like two stenographers.
There's very few of those.
I think I'm going to close it.
Two out of the...
Operationally, you know, but I think by people of that, for instance, if somebody worked awful hard, or they're 25 years, or your grandmother died, or something, that's the kind of people who should always come in.
Maybe it's really, we're only doing it because I, I mean, I don't, I think they're past the time.
Thank goodness that it's not in the end.
But we have to do one a month, so.
Well, maybe we should just have our people, if I don't have to say it, answer it.
If you do, you have to say something to them as you leave instead of just walking into the last round and leaving, I think.
Ask them to go out and have coffee and what have you.
A little closing speech.
We want to thank you and the residents for being here.
And I understand they're serving coffee.
We have coffee.
You can try that.
I think you have to do something.
And then get up and walk out and go upstairs.
And then let this husband go there and run the long wire.
Oh, yeah.
I'll show you.
It's very useful.
But if I have to shake hands and pick the people that you think will do us the most good, okay.
Just remember, it's just a part of everything.
And if you have any doubts, you know, any of these things, I don't care, you know, so... And as I say, I don't want to rule out the personal, and I'm sure I'd like to do the personal, but...
There would be more.
And frankly, I don't want to be too much of a boy.
I think I need to just thank God we have one more day to go.
Aaron?
You're saying thank God that everybody else is saying, oh, we've got to get all these people in.
Yeah, two.
We have the same two, don't we?
We have the same two staff.
That doesn't matter.
It takes care of a lot of them, doesn't it?
Yeah, but that doesn't do one good as far as taking care of them, really, because their wives are the ones who want to come around.
You've got an OAS in there, but you can't do much in that.
Yeah, I've got to do that.
And they have a lot for the vaccine in there, right?
I guess so.
I don't know.
I guess that dates then.
If I didn't, I'd have turned down that level of vaccine.
Well, that gives you... You have a lot for the vaccine.
Well, sure, I've got a lot of names.
I've got a lot of them from stands and those folks, because I can mouth the types of... What are they?
What are they?
A few of those.
These are a lot of unique finance people.
There's some finance, there's some political from around the country.
We can do those on the gridiron first, if you want to do that.
Because a lot of the same type people be here for the gridiron.
Why do they have them?
People looking like Charlie Thomas was in last week and came in to say hello.
And he said his wife wants to come to church and they get passed because he doesn't have anything else to write.
He doesn't have anything else to write.
Let's see, maybe he has a lifetime pass.
But he said that that's the one time she's been wanting to come to, and I said, oh, well, that's fine.
Well, that's kind of people of a life.
It would really mean something for the Monroes, but, you know, I just want to tell you that I, we're only going to have one month, and there are about three left before the election, and so, as you said, I won't do anything today.
Well, I'm taking that as a question.
Cambridge was, for the most part, for the epigenetic change for Turkey's prime minister.
So we've done, that's where we've ended up in the after-dinner thing, though, isn't it?
Is government people?
Are we doing after-dinner guests other than just official parties?
No.
What happens is...
The way to do it is to get them right into the darn place.
Yeah, absolutely.
So that we...
Yeah, that's right.
Jason, that's worked fine the last couple of times.
They don't expect you, and then they get to stay in debt, and that's all right with you.
They have champagne downstairs.
They come up and go in.
The other ones who are people who are working hard that they can depend on, I'm sure that's who they are anyway.
Yeah.
Well, they are.
And this is a good way of making that happen.
And that way we can get in under 50 people.
And there's a good way to come to the White House.
Sure, so you can get up to 250 in our White House.
I don't know, besides that... Well, I'm crying next to you.
It's a black time.
Black time.
Black time.
Well, that one's already out, whatever it is.
There it is.
It's already out.
Well, it's white time, sir.
But after all that, then I'll give the...
I'll be sure that the King will be a black time.
That's not my stuff.
I can be white.
No, no.
We said it would be the wrong time of year.
I understand.
He didn't have quite a lot of time back then.
He was a black child.
He wasn't even black?
Well, this was in Atacoka, Puerto Vallarta.
Oh.
Those were two lunches that weren't there.
That's right.
We didn't have dinner.
He wasn't president yet.
Oh, yes.
I think I'm going to ask you a question about this.
That was the former president.
The Farmer President was there.
This guy was not President, that's true.
And this one, you had to change his stuff.
Has had a lunch.
Since he became this President.
I've done the then President's Mexico three times.
The Farmer President twice, one in San Diego, one down there.
Now this one, they've done it for lunch, now they want me to have a dinner for him.
Which is, I think, is Julian.
Where did we do the lunch?
Over here.
Small, small.
It's his family.
Then he had another lunch.
He did the former president really three times.
He did him down in that dam.
One day, too.
I did him three times.
Down to that place, Hamistad Dam, for lunch.
He had you.
It was on his side.
Right there.
A lot of music.
That's what you've got.
That's what you've got.
Do you think Gordon McRae might have him sometime?
He might be safe now.
Huh?
Well, he signed that one.
Dorothy Pearson can't like Gordon McRae.
Dorothy Pearson is about 90 inches.
Oh, I don't think so.
She's got to be.
No, she isn't.
All right.
All right.
That was Kirsten Flagstaff.
Dorothy Kirsten is the one in L.A. and her husband, Jack French, is the head of the .
Some idea.
Go ahead and write it.
No, I didn't do that.
Can I suggest?
No, I can't.
You can get Lenny Kazan.
Can I suggest this, too?
That all these choirs, let's not risk on that, don't have a choir this time.
Can we have just a singer?
I don't have any idea what to expect.
A church?
I don't know what the hell is going to happen to the choir in these days, either.
So I'm going to check this.
I'm going to do that this time.
All right.
I'm reading a lousy novel about the life in the White House.
It was picked up at an airport.
And the president's wife decided to have a party and she invited a London rock and roll group to entertain all men, long hair types.
And they performed in the news.
But the president was drunk so he didn't notice it.
He didn't say anything and everybody looked at him and he didn't react so nobody else did.
Oh, he hadn't gotten that far yet.
The same president shot a secret service agent because he found him in bed with his wife.
What novel is this?
Works the way to his bedroom.
Does a great job of upgrading the office.
Yeah.
Well, we're trying to get as many people who haven't been, and that's what we've spent a lot of our time on.
Those people have been weeding out the ones who have already been.
That's right.
I'll be as hinted at, like, can I say 20 times that one man is not going to be included in the doctor's arrangements until I give you further notice?
I don't know.
They may have already called all the automatic ones.
They call the cabinet and all those people automatically.
I don't think so.
I tried not to push the people who have been here that often.
That's all right.
At least it doesn't mean not all of us.
Well, the thing is, you have to, I think what we have to do is try to get people, sure, you have to understand, but if you have people who haven't been here, they're excited, and it can make the whole thing more fun.
It's like, you know, like Patricia was referring to, she was talking about the $1,000 dinner she had.
Now we go to the old store.
I know you can see, I just hope you can notice, though, that that kind of damage is about the least of these gastric cancers, and I think you can go back to this and look at the record, and I think you can notice that.
I said, you know, basically, what I want you to do when I notice, is to do your job.
Well, that goes back to the congressional one.
You have an awful lot of lobbyists.
That's what it mostly is, and giveaways.
because they have to buy it and she wants to find someone to tell us that she knows not very well what they all have
He just gets uptight, I guess, because it was Dr. Spence.
Yeah, his vocal cords get up over and up and down his skin.
And some people, they've gotten rid of him out of that job.
She said those doctors couldn't divorce him.
That was fairly good, he bumped all of us, but it was pretty good.
You were there?
Oh yeah, sitting right up front, kind of stoned.
I wouldn't have been there, but I'd have been kind of stoned.
It's awful hard to say no, I won't go.
We had to stand in the middle.
My brother and his wife.
No, I didn't buy a job between John Mitchell and Paul Garvey, so I had a job.
I didn't, you know.
It was, it was, it was all right.
Well, John Mitchell and I talked for several weeks.
I thought they were going to cover him because, you know, it is for a dollar.
Poor John, follows his way home.
I asked you, I controlled that, and I can bring you a version of the card tonight.
I'm quietly ready for that now.
No, I don't give a damn about the Constitution.
I'm just going to say, we've got to have many more shots of the U.S. Yeah, well, I've heard that one of the U.S. military officers said they were spying on the Russians.
I've seen the president's story about the men in the barracks.
Yeah.
Explaining to the world that they don't know how to make it.
Really?
That's why they're so scared?
That's why they're so scared right now.
They're getting out of the lesson.
They're teaching them in some of our grade schools, don't y'all know?
Yeah.
Okay.
Come on, let's look in here.
independent.
Who had nothing to do with Delon Rae.
Recruited by Ken, a farmer.
A very great analyst.
Recruited by Ken, a farmer.
Employed Delon Rae.
He was also a farmer when I started and have been working here.
And the time has passed since Delon Rae's three years.
That's all right.
I don't need you to try to do that with that pressure.
You never have any excess pressure.
No, but it's going to, I would thank Peter out this week, even if they, if we don't come in, and we get all these witnesses that they can go on forever, it's
You might shoot for them to come up with, I don't think.
That'd be rehashing.
Okay?
You know, the technicalities of what day what memo was sent and all that kind of stuff.
I don't need it, I'm not sure.
It would create some doubts, but obviously, you know, it does that.
Yeah, it spreads.
75 on the crippling left.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Listen, the resignation thing just doesn't add up.
I told him that.
I told him that.
That was right.
And then he was horrified.
You know, he said, well, you didn't let the president go out of his mind.
I said, oh, hell no.
It was just a tactical maneuver that you were raising.
And I...
We're talking about it, and that sends me to, because I'm not.
He says, I don't care what happens.
I am not quitting now.
It's in my mind.
If he wants to be sure none of us have any lingering doubts in our minds, that he might pull one of his own temper tantrums again, he says, be sure we know he's not going to drive me out of the schema.
And that's definitely, there's a hell of a lot of provocation to the driver's being
I mean, the fact that he doesn't even call in, you know, God damn it now.
That's just small to say this, don't you agree?
Yep.
That is really small.
I don't know.
We're sort of at a continuum one now.
Yeah, I suppose.
Let it go for a while.
There may be something that comes up in the ocean, like a depression.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
You went off because somebody went all around the world.
This is a big morning for me, and I suppose you cannot blame me.
I didn't get it.
Are you?
You got it.
You?
OK.
Slow it down.
No.
That's better.
All right.
I assume that the meeting with Billy Graham's religious leaders is going forward.
Would you please check that?
If it is not being done this week, be sure it is done the week after Henry is back on his vacation.
I do not believe the problem is potentially too great a one, but it could become one in the event that extremists get to them before Henry has a chance to
Put the record straight.