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Conversation 684-002

TapeTape 684StartMonday, March 13, 1972 at 6:03 PMEndMonday, March 13, 1972 at 6:05 PMTape start time01:46:26Tape end time01:59:51ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  Butterfield, Alexander P.Recording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On March 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:03 pm and 6:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 684-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 684-2

Date: March 13, 1972
Time: Unknown between 6:03 pm and 6:05 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President dictated a memorandum to H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Haldeman

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 6:03 pm.

     Signing documents

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 6:05 pm.

The President continued dictating.

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with William F. (“Billy”) Graham and religious leaders
               -Henry A. Kissinger
                      -Schedule
                      -Meetings with political groups
                      -Meetings with columnists
          -White House church service
               -Army Chorus
               -Half hour church service
                      -Army Chorus
               -Speakers for service
                      -Army chorus
                           -Religious songs

     International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case
           -Growth
                 -John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson administrations
                       -Stop growth
                             -Present administration
                 -Haldeman's talk with Charles W. Colson
                       -Lawyer for ITT or Department of Justice
                             -Prosecution during Johnson administration
                                   -Harold S. Geneen testimony
           -Testimony against the President
                 -Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin's office
                 -Editorials or columns
                       -Criticism
           -Files of the House Un-american Activities Committee [HUAC]
                 -Alger Hiss case
                       -Editorials
                             -New York Times and the Washington Post
                                   -Condemnation of the committee
                                        -Hearsay evidence

     Graham
          -Talks with Haldeman
               -Political situation

     Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

           -Talk with Haldeman
                -Press

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     William P. Rogers situation
          -Ronald L. Ziegler
          -Herbert G. Klein
          -Press questions
          -Ziegler's statement
          -Klein

The President completed the dictation.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Put the record straight.
Paragraph.
In that same connection, by giving Henry groups that are important to us politically, it will take the pressure off of him
to do with some of the columnists and others who inevitably are going to be pressing to see them.
Obviously, it gives them to go on a schedule, and it's better they go on a schedule with people who will be of interest to us politically rather than... Is that a time?
Ooh, that's almost enough that he would otherwise get to him.
On another subject, for the Great Army Church, I would like to have the Army Chorus.
It is the best of the three choruses.
And since the gridiron is devoid of speeches, uh, ostensibly, and full of music, why not have, they have our, uh, church service with, uh, scripture-reading prayer and the Army chorus without, uh, trying to have any remarks.
Anyone we get to speak will fall flat before they go to the sinks.
At least, whatever we do on the speaker side, make it short.
And let's have the Army Corps, who are a number of good religious hunters, who they can make a spiritual, which they are very good at, with that big barricade.
I wouldn't remember.
On another subject, getting a report today on how much our EMT grew during the three county years and the five council years.
My guess is that the growth was very substantial, particularly during the latter period.
The figure may mean nothing, but I would like to have it amended, too.
We want to make a case on the point that the Johnson administration, as well as the Kennedy administration, failed to bring an action to stop the growth of IT&P, whereas this administration did so.
Also, we should follow up on the Colts' promises.
whether any lawyer from the anti-trust division or ITT would be loyal enough to say that prosecution was recommended during counting years and nothing happened.
If it is not possible to make it this way, then I'm in the voice of the justice.
I think most would agree to have Janine cover this in his testimony.
Another item I need to say, which you can get from Mort Allen's shop, as a result of a quick check, is whether any editorials, whatever, or columns have been written criticizing the
It is very funny for a liable assessment on the attempts of the President of the United States on hearsay or remotely.
Also, at a later point, because it will probably take several days to get this, I would like for some young person
to go back in the files during the days of the, in this case, the Un-American Activities Committee, and get a reading editorial in the New York Times or Washington Post, naming the committee for using hearsay once or both.
In some cases, it may be that part of the theory doesn't hold up, but at least I would like our researchers to see what the facts are.
A character that was murdered regarding a grant.
We should be sure to place a call in about once every two weeks to discuss the political situation.
I would prefer not to get into these matters as directly with them.
I do want to continue in contact with him so that he doesn't feel that we are not interested in supporting this group and help keep states where they can be halted.
On another subject, I would like for you to give Edmo a call.
Knowing that the RN is analyzing the process.
On another subject, the next time we were discussing the Rogers matter, you told him that all the hands here, particularly Ziegler and Kwan, told him not to count the criticism of him, which has certainly in the last three days
But the figure has not had one question on it from the press at any of his briefings up to this point.
He has a strong statement that I authorize him to make, and that is to question your trade.
Would you also pass the same to the client so that he can handle it in the effective way?
In the effective way.
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