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Nixon & Bull on Jack R. Miller and Diplomatic protocol

Tuesday, March 14, 1972 · 12:15 PM–12:18 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation685-005 on Tape 685 (tape position 03:20:45–03:23:03)StartTuesday, March 14, 1972 at 12:15 PMEndTuesday, March 14, 1972 at 12:18 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 685-005 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull briefly met to coordinate administrative logistics regarding an upcoming meeting with Senator Jack R. Miller. The discussion focused on scheduling details, including arrangements for the Senator’s daughter and the selection of appropriate ceremonial gifts for attendees. The exchange emphasized the importance of symbolic gestures in diplomatic and political interactions.

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3:20:43The second, first was the audience, the economy.
3:20:45The second is the promise you had given me about the economy.
3:20:54The third is the good news.
3:20:56What you see, even though you're Secretary General, you're still the first.
3:21:00I was there in Iran.
3:21:02I remember waiting for the show.
3:21:06And it's true that, well, at the terrible time of Masa Deku, you recall, Zahid became, not the president, but his father became Prime Minister.
3:21:14And it was an exciting time.
3:21:18It was the first of the 1930s.
3:21:23And, of course, I'm in the actions and the practices, and so I look forward to going again.
3:21:30So, you're saying that, you know, they, uh, the people of Christ, you know, the people of His Majesty, they wouldn't believe in our religion.
3:21:41Yes.
3:21:41They wouldn't.
3:21:42Oh, they always begin to.
3:21:43We try, but we can't.
3:21:45Uh-huh.
3:21:47They do.
3:21:48They are.
3:21:48And then I think it would matter if she did a fine job of taking the oil, which is not a country, and putting it into the harvest for the people.
3:22:01He's a Chinese person.
3:22:04If he's left alone, he's not going to do something.
3:22:08If the crazy people are crazy people, we call the crazy people crazy people.
3:22:12I don't mean this way, but you know.
3:22:15It is important.
3:22:18I mean, I know it's important.
3:22:33And the symbolism is what is very important.
3:22:37And that's particularly true of the size of the box.
3:22:41We want to kind of do it together.
3:22:43And this is it.
3:22:45Thank you for your time.
3:22:45Bye.
3:22:47Thank you, Mr. President.
3:22:50Sorry, you're back on stage.
3:22:53Well, that doesn't take you straight.
3:22:55It's not you.
3:22:56It's your wife.
3:22:57Why don't you make that the best you can do?

NARA Description

On March 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:15 pm and 12:18 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 685-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 685-5

Date: March 14, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:15 pm and 12:18 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President's schedule
            -Meeting
                  -Jack R. Miller
                         -Daughter
                         -Gifts for participants

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:18 pm.

Also recorded on March 14, 1972

  • 685-006 12:18 PM · 16 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Wes H. Bartlett, Darrell Coover, Jack R. Miller, Jaynie K. Miller, William E. Timmons, Henry C. Cashen, II, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:18 pm to 12:32 pm.
  • 685-007 12:32 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:36 pm.
  • 021-063 12:36 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 12:36 pm.
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  • 021-065 12:36 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:36 pm and 2:55 pm.
  • 685-008 12:36 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:36 pm.
  • 685-009 12:36 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:36 pm.
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Cite this conversation

Conversation 685-005, March 14, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/685-005 (accessed October 12, 2026).