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Conversation: 695-002

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Start Date: 28-Mar-1972 10:19 AM

End Date: 28-Mar-1972 11:11 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ziegler, Ronald L.Butterfield, Alexander P.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:21:03

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:13:00

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695b.mp3

695c.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:19 am to 11:11 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 695-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 695-2

Date: March 28, 1972
Time: 10:19 am - 11:11 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

     Kissinger's schedule
          -Previous meeting with the House Foreign Affairs Committee
                -State Department/White House policy
                      -The President
                           -Meeting with foreign leaders
                                 -William P. Rogers’s attendance
                                 -Kissinger's attendance
                                 -Chou En-lai
                -Vietnam
                      -Donald M. Fraser
                -Charles C. Diggs, Jr.
                -Jonathan B. Bingham
                -The People's Republic of China [PRC]
                -Middle East
                -Vietnam
                      -Fraser
                           -Withdrawal
                                 -Deadline
                      -Negotiations
                                              2

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 695-2 (cont.)

    Vietnam
         -Intelligence reports

    The President’s schedule
         -Forthcoming meeting with Hussein ibn Talal [Hussein, King of Jordan]

    Vietnam
         -Bombings
              -Casualties
                    -B-3 area
              -Air Force
         -Laos
              -Military dispositions


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 7s ]


    MILITARY DISPOSITIONS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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               -Long Tien
               -Bombing

    Soviet trip
         -Accommodations for the President
                -Kremlin
                     -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
         -Length of visit
         -Poland
                -Possible trip
                     -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                            -Meeting with Kissinger
                                    3

                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                            Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. 10/06)
                                                            Conv. No. 695-2 (cont.)

           -Domestic political impact of visit
                -Italians
                -Poles
                       -US neighborhoods
                             -Philadelphia
                             -New York
                             -Chicago
                             -Cleveland
                             -Detroit
           -Dobrynin
                -Haig
           -US Ambassador to Poland [Walter J. Stoessel, Jr.]
           -Importance
                -Impact on Polish government
                       -Nicolae Ceausescu
           -Reasons for trip
-PRC
      -Kissinger's forthcoming trip
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
      -William P. Rogers
            -Participation in Iran trip
-Iran
      -Length of visit
-Poland
      -Length of visit
-US consultation with the Soviets
      -The President’s trip to Iran
            -Need for refueling stop
                  -NATO country
                        -Azores
                  -Ireland
-Length of visit
      -Kissinger’s view
            -PRC trip
            -Announcements
      -Leningrad
      -Baku, Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic
      -Tblisi, Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic
      -Baku
            -Proximity to Tehran
-Kissinger's meeting with Dobrynin
      -Polish invitations to the President
                                               4

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                          Conv. No. 695-2 (cont.)

               -NATO
               -Poland
               -NATO
               -Visit
               -Rogers
          -The President
               -Baku
               -Tehran
          -NATO
               -Rogers
          -Romania
          -Yugoslavia
          -Poland
               -Dobrynin
                     -Meetings with Kissinger
                            -Initial US response to stay in Poland
                            -The President’s forthcoming trip to Tehran
          -NATO
               -Rogers
          -Tehran trip
          -Stops
               -Poland
                     -Length of visit
          -Tehran to Poland
               -Compared to Pakistan-Bucharest trip
                     -Flight time
          -Kissinger's forthcoming meeting with Dobrynin

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 10:30 am.

          -The President's stay at the Kremlin
               -Dwight D. Eisenhower comparison
               -Gen. Charles A.J.M. De Gaulle

     Middle East
         -The President’s forthcoming meeting with Hussein
         -Israel
               -Soviet trip
                    -Secret deals
                    -Kissinger's schedule
                    -Timing on deal
                           -Election
                                           5

                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 695-2 (cont.)

                               -John N. Mitchell
                                     -Jewish vote
                               -Media
                   -Kissinger’s view
                         -Crisis
                   -Kissinger's forthcoming meeting with Dobrynin
                   -Andrei A. Gromyko
                   -US-Soviet summit
                         -Interim agreement
                               -Israeli reaction
              -Agreement
                   -Timing
                   -Rogers
                         -State Department
                               -Soviet Union and the US
              -Soviet summit
                   -Agreement


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 36s ]


    ISRAEL


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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         -Agreement
               -Timing
                    -Election
               -Soviets
               -Yitzhak Rabin
                    -Meeting with Rogers
         -Israelis
               -Kissinger’s view
                                              6

                              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 695-2 (cont.)

           -Soviets
           -US position
                -United Arab Republic [UAR]
                -Algeria

     Soviet trip
          -Poland
                 -Rogers
                 -Kissinger's schedule
                      -Dobrynin meetings
          -Length of visit
                 -PRC
          -Public impact
          -Announcements by the President
          -Sightseeing
                 -Leningrad
                      -Kissinger’s possible stay in Moscow
                 -White House staff
                      -Rogers

     The President's schedule
          -Forthcoming meeting with Hussein
               -Egypt
               -Israelis
               -Plan
               -Egypt
               -Plan

Kissinger left at 10:45 am.

     Middle East
         -Crises
               -Haldeman’s view
                     -Election
               -Polls

     International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case
           -Richard G. Kleindienst confirmation
                -John D. Ehrlichman
           -John N. Mitchell
                -Hugh Scott
                -James O. Eastland
                                                7

                               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 695-2 (cont.)

                 -Public relations
                 -Strategy
                 -Kleindienst's possible withdrawal
                       -Charles W. Colson
                             -Clark MacGregor
                             -Wallace H. Johnson
                             -Richard A. Moore
                             -Ronald L. Ziegler
                                   -Herbert G. Klein
                                   -John Scali

Ziegler entered at 10:50 am.

           -Scott's news conference
                -Helen A. Thomas's question
                      -Americans' right to know
                            -Scott's answer
                                 -Election
                                 -Edmund S. Muskie
                                 -Hubert H. Humphrey
                                 -Kleindienst
                                        -Lawrence F. O’Brien
                -Economy
                -Legislative impasse

Ziegler left at 10:53 am.

           -Moore
                -Talk with Haldeman
                      -Ehrlichman
           -Television
           -White House staff
                -Peter M. Flanigan
                      -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                      -Murray M. Chotiner
                      -Washington Post
           -Kleindienst
           -Flanigan
           -News summary
           -Hugh S. Sidey
                -National Observer
           -Washington press corps
                                             8

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                            Conv. No. 695-2 (cont.)

     -Haldeman's talk with John B. Connally
     -Administration's handling
           -Dita D. Beard
                  -Memorandum
                  -Authenticity
     -Joseph C. Kraft article, March 28th
     -William E. Timmons
     -Conversation
     -Kraft's article
     -White House staff
     -Justice Department
     -Kraft article
     -Ehrlichman and Colson
     -White House strategy
           -Options
                  -Media problem
     -Colson
     -Networks
     -Strategy goals
     -Flanigan
           -Robert H. Finch
           -Klein

Life magazine articles
      -Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin
      -Edward M. Kennedy
           -Robert F. Kennedy
      -Vietnam
           -Servicemen
                -Drugs
                -Casualties
      -Jewish media
           -Kissinger

Pending legislation on postal rates
     -Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
           -Reader's Digest
                 -Election
     -Life magazine
     -Ehrlichman
     -Lewis
                                                  9

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                           Tape Subject Log
                                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 695-2 (cont.)

     News media
         -Sidey
              -Weekly column
         -Ziegler
              -List of friends

     Economy
         -Connally
             -Tax reform
                   -Forthcoming meeting with the President
                   -Republican efforts
                        -1954, 1969
                   -Spending increases compared to spending cuts

     Busing
          -Ehrlichman
          -Southern Congressmen and Senators
                -Briefing by Administration officials
                -Leadership meeting
                      -Clark MacGregor
                      -Ehrlichman
                            -Edward L. Morgan

     ITT
           -Kleindienst confirmation
                -Mitchell
                      -MacGregor
                      -Colson
                      -Johnson
                      -Connally
                      -Talk with Haldeman

     Connally’s schedule
         -Earl L. Butz
         -Donald H. Rumsfeld
         -Colson

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 11:00 am.

     Items for the President’s signature

     Connally’s schedule
                                                10

                                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                         Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 695-2 (cont.)



Butterfield left at 11:03 am.

     ITT case
          -Big business
               -Involvement in politics
                     -Connally’s view
                     -Flanigan
               -Taxes
          -White House staff
          -Flanigan
               -Unknown man, Miami
                     -Call from Robert H. Abplanalp

Stephen B. Bull and Kissinger entered at an unknown time after 10:53 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Hussein
               -Arrival

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:11 am.

     ITT
           -Flanigan
                -Unknown man
                     -"Friends of the President"
                -Colson

Haldeman and Kissinger left at 11:11 am.