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Start Date: 31-Mar-1972 12:02 PM

End Date: 31-Mar-1972 1:58 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.Woods, Rose Mary[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:51:39

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:48:24

699a.mp3

699b.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 31, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, Rose Mary Woods, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:02 pm to 1:58 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 699-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 699-7

Date: March 31, 1972
Time: 12:02 pm - 1:58 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

      Media
          -Henry A. Kissinger
               -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                    -H.R. (“Bob”)Haldeman
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                      -Appearance
                      -Marvin L. Kalb
                      -Backgrounder
          -Julie Nixon Eisenhower's television appearance
                -Dinah Shore
                -Haldeman
                -Ziegler
                -William L. Safire
                -Richard A. Moore
          -Kissinger
                -Interest in substance
                -State Department
                -Return from Moscow
                -Democratic National Convention
                -Forthcoming television appearance

Haldeman entered at 12:08 pm.

          -Julie Nixon Eisenhower television appearance
                -Godfrey Sperling, Jr.
                -Staff viewing
                -Conduct on television
                -Ingrid Bergman
                -Christmas show
                -Shore
                -Christmas show
                      -Maria McCllelan
                      -Harry Reasoner
                -Shore
                -Tricia Nixon Cox
                -Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s performance
                      -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                      -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                      -The President
          -Kissinger’s possible appearance on CBS
                -Kissinger's press conference
                      -Transcript
                      -The PRC press corps
                      -The President's meeting with Chou En-Lai
                      -PRC
                           -The President and Mrs. Nixon
                                  -Conduct
                -Audience
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                -CBS
                -Kalb
                -Kissinger
                -Herbert G. Klein
                -Compared to efforts of John A. Scali
                     -Press coverage
                     -Ziegler’s view
                           -Timing of Kissinger’s appearance
                                 -PRC
                                 -The President’s forthcoming Soviet trip
                     -Kalb
                     -The President’s view
                           -The President’s press conferences compared to John F. Kennedy’s
press conferences
                           -Nicholas P. Thimmesch
                           -Peter Lisagor
                           -Kalb
                     -Timing
                           -Soviet trip
                           -Democratic National Convention
                     -Partisanship
           -White House staff
                -Domestic Council
                -Klein
                     -Dealings with the press
                     -Compared to Kissinger
           -John B. Connally
                -Network coverage

     Economy
         -Prices
               -Meat
                   -Percentages of increase
                   -Family budgets
                        -The President
                             -Work in a grocery store during the Great Depression
                   -Connally

     Media
         -Kissinger’s possible television appearance
              -Kalb
                    -Prime time
              -Kissinger's talk with Ziegler
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           -Kissinger's previous meeting with the President
      -Termination
           -Timing
           -William P. Rogers
                  -State Department
      -Timing
           -Soviet trip
      -Networks
           -Bargaining
      -Questions
           -Vietnam
           -Taiwan, Republic of China
           -Middle East
           -Soviet summit
           -Balance of power
           -Middle East
      -Original purpose of appearance
           -PRC
      -Timing
      -CBS
      -Spokesman for US foreign policy
           -Rogers
           -The President
           -Soviet summit
                  -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
      -Kalb
-Herbert E. Kaplow
      -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
      -Removed from White House press detail
      -Radio
           -Sponsorship by insurance company
                  -Television
      -Possible resignation
      -NBC
      -White House coverage
-Forrest Boyd
-Thomas E. Jarriel
-William A. Gill, Jr.
-CBS
      -Robert Pierpoint
      -Dan Rather
           -Schedule
-NBC
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           -John W. Chancellor
           -Richard G. Valeriani
                -Wife
                -Previous interaction with the President
           -Kaplow
     -Pierpoint
     -Rather
           -Radio and television correspondents dinner
                -Ziegler
                -Rather’s January 2, 1972 interview with the President
                -News summary
                -Warren E. Burger
                -Ziegler's introduction of correspondents
                      -Kaplow, Jarriel, Rather
                -Rather
                      -Humor
                            -Ziegler
                                   -PRC trip
                                   -Suits
                -Kaplow
                      -Humor
                -Rather
                      -Reaction to comments
                -Rather
                      -Talk with Ziegler
                      -Talk with Nancy Plessinger Ziegler
                      -Public reaction to Rather’s humor
                      -Haldeman’s view
     -Kaplow
           -The President's trip around the world, 1963
           -The President's visit to Caracas
           -White House coverage
           -Possible environment job
                -Other White House positions
                      -Haldeman’s view
                      -Scali
     -Rather
           -Correspondents dinner

Gridiron dinner
     -Burger’s possible attendance
           -Edgar A. Poe
           -Call from the White House
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                     -Roger’s possible call to Burger
               -Carl B. Albert
          -Rogers's appearance

     The President's meeting with Frank E. Fitzsimmons
          -George Meany
          -Pay Board
          -Meany
               -American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-
CIO] council meeting
               -Leonard Woodcock
                      -Loan from the International Brotherhood of Teamsters
          -Labor leaders compared to businessmen
               -The President’s view

     PRC trip
         -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's television special
              -Constance M. Stuart
              -Scali
              -Highlights of Mrs. Nixon's tours
              -Voice-over by Mrs. Nixon
              -Script
              -Importance
              -American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
              -Length
              -Timing
              -Preparation
              -Scali
              -Ziegler
              -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
              -Decision date
              -Narration
              -Highlights of Mrs. Nixon's tours
              -Audio tape
              -Scripting
              -Mrs. Nixon’s voice
              -Narration
              -Announcer
              -Stuart
                    -Scheduling
                    -Haldeman’s view
              -Hairdresser during trip [Rita R. DeSantis]
              -John V. (“Jack”) Brennan
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           -Mike Schrauth
           -John P. D'arcy
           -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                 -Talk with Haldeman
           -Film
                 -Compared to moon landing
                 -Footage of banquet
                 -Guest House
           -Narration
                 -The President’s activities during the trip
           -Public interest in trip
           -John F. Kennedy administration
                 -Trips
                       -Jacqueline (Bouvier) Kennedy
                             -Paris
                             -Mt. Vernon party for Mohammed Ayub Khan
           -Opportunity
           -Narration
                 -Voice
           -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                 -Talk with Haldeman
                       -Ziegler
                       -Importance
           -Mrs. Nixon's schedule
                 -Public event in California
           -Importance
           -Audience
           -Beginning of program
           -Film
           -Voice-over
           -Haldeman's talk with Julie Nixon Eisenhower

Kissinger's possible television appearance
     -The President’s view
     -Willingness
     -Kalb's involvement
     -Timing
           -Soviet trip
     -The President’s memoranda
     -Buildup of Kissinger
     -Soviet trip
     -Foreign policy question
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Ziegler’s schedule

American Society of Newspaper Editors [ASNE] reception
    -Number of participants
    -Questions and answers [Q and A]
          -White House events
                -Frequency
    -Panel
    -Location
          -East Room
    -The President's appearance
    -Questions
    -Length
    -Date
          -The President's press conference
    -Television

Press conferences
      -Office
            -Television coverage
                  -Writing press
      -Previous press conference in the Oval Office, March 24, 1972
            -Television coverage of stories from the press conference
            -Haldeman
            -Film cameras
                  -Ziegler’s view
                  -NBC
                       -Possible story on refusal to answer questions
      -Location
      -Previous press conference in the Oval Office
            -Television compared to the writing press
      -Impromptu nature of office press conferences
      -Location
            -East Room compared to Press Room
      -Press coverage
      -Audience
      -Equal time
            -315 ruling on press conferences
                  -Federal Communications Commission [FCC] testimony memorandum
                       -Newton Minow
                  -Lyndon B. Johnson
                  -Election
                  -Democratic primary
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                     -John N. Ashbrook
               -Democrats
               -Presidential advantage
                     -Democratic National Convention

ASNE reception [April 20, 1972]
   -Length
   -White House policemen, fire chiefs, church services
         -Comparisons
   -News conference
   -Length
   -Networks
   -Ziegler’s view
   -Editors
         -[First name unknown] Whiteough [?] from Missouri
         -Unknown editor from North Dakota
         -Orange County
         -White House press corps
   -Numbers
   -White House correspondents
   -Q and A session
               -Klein
   -Wives
   -Length
   -Timing
         -Press conference
   -Q and A
   -Television
   -Possible event at ASNE hotel
         -White House reception
   -Timing
         -Press conference
         -The President’s forthcoming trip to Canada

PRC
      -Ping Pong match between PRC and US teams
           -Press coverage
           -Timing
           -White House tennis court
                -Grandstand
           -Doubles
           -Singles
           -Mixed doubles
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          -Demonstration for the President

ASNE reception
   -Questions
         -Previous press conference
   -Length
   -Location
   -Questions
   -Number of attendees
   -Radio
         -Live
         -Time
         -Networks
               -Television
   -Q and A
   -Location
   -Radio
   -Length
         -Editors
   -Radio
         -Time
               -Audience
               -Dinner
   -Panel
   -Number of participants
   -Applause
   -Wives
   -Press conference
   -Questions

Press conferences
      -Television
           -Number
      -Timing
           -Soviet trip
           -Democratic National Convention
      -Possible dates
      -Possible network interview
           -“Three on one”
           -Soviet trip
           -Foreign policy
           -Ziegler’s view
           -Timing
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                -“Three on one”
                -Press conference
          -Summits
          -Foreign policy
    -Pattern
          -1969
    -ABC
          -One on one interview
    -CBS
          -One on one interview
    -NBC
          -A Day in the Life of the President
    -Three on one
          -Timing
                -Soviet summit
    -Format
          -Q and A
    -Television
    -Networks
    -Equal time
          -315 ruling
                -Soviet summit
                -Busing
                -Networks
                      -Audiences
    -1960 campaign
          -Claire Booth Luce
                -Speech
                -Rating
          -Air time
                -Vice Presidential candidates
                      -Henry Cabot Lodge
                           -Rating
                -The President’s appearance as a candidate
                      -Rating


ASNE reception
   -Radio
   -Importance
         -Endorsements
   -Klein
   -Convention
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                -Drawing
                     -Criteria for attendance
           -Q and A
           -Location
           -Receiving line
                -Blue Room
                     -Redecoration
                           -Compared to Red Room and Green Room

Ziegler left at 1:16 pm.

     The President's schedule
           -Possible speech at the National Catholic Educational Association [NCEA]
convention
                -Timing
                -Connally
                      -Tax reform
                           -Wilbur D. Mills

The President left at an unknown time after 1:16 pm.

     Request for Manolo Sanchez

The President re-entered at an unknown time before 1:53 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -Possible trip to Cambridge, Massachusetts
               -Tricia Nixon Cox
               -Harvard University
                      -Spring vacation
          -Plane travel
               -Size of plane
                      -Press
               -Backup plane
               -Helicopter
               -Large plane
               -Possible departure from Camp David
                      -Tricia Nixon Cox
                      -Departure from airport
                            -Gettysburg
                            -Harrisburg
                      -Press pool
                            -Advance notice of trip
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                     -Easter Sunday
                          -News
                                -Demonstrations
                                    -Previous Easter
                                          -Episcopal priests


Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 1:16 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -Camp David
               -Departure
                      -Time
                      -Helicopter
                      -Mrs. Nixon
                            -Car
                      -Ellipse

Bull left at an unknown time before 1:53 pm.

Rose Mary Woods entered at an unknown time after 1:16 pm.

     Camp David
         -Departure
              -Woods's call to Mrs. Nixon
                    -Time
                    -Car to Ellipse

Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 1:16 and 1:53 pm;the
President can be heard talking with Woods in the background.

     The President's schedule
          -The President’s possible speech at the NCEA conference
               -Cancellation
          -Tennis racquets

Woods left at an unknown time before 1:53 pm.

          -Camp David
              -Time
                   -Departure

     [End of telephone conversation]
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     Material for the President's review
          -Canadian Parliament speech
          -U.S. News and World Report article
          -Canadian Parliament speech
                -Safire
                -Price
                -Kissinger

     Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr.
          -Possible participation in the Soviet trip
          -Seating arrangements in motorcades
                -The President's car
                -Patricia R. Mosbacher
          -Emil Mosbacher’s possible participation in Soviet trip
                -Advance trips
                -Patricia Mosbacher
                -Adele (Langston) Rogers
                -Advance trips
                      -William R. Codus
          -Protocol
                -Hussein ibn Talal [Hussein, King of Jordan]

Woods entered at an unknown time after 1:16 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -Camp David
               -Mrs. Nixon
                      -Travel plans

Bull entered at an unknown time after 1:16 pm.

                -Time

Bull left at an unknown time before 1:53 pm.


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[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m ]
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     The President’s schedule
          -Flight to Camp David
          -The President’s possible speech at the NCEA

Woods left at an unknown time before 1:53 pm.

               -Elliott Richardson
                     -Politics
               -Importance
               -Connally
               -Vice-President Spiro T. Agnew

     Camp David
         -Dwight David II and Julie Nixon Eisenhower
              -Use of helicopter from Andrews Air Force Base
                   -Compared to driving
                   -Tricia Nixon Cox
                   -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                   -Cabinet
                   -Staff
                   -Military aide
                   -Tricia Nixon Cox
                   -Convenience
                         -Forthcoming discussion with the President regarding public
programs

     News summary story
         -Contributors
              -John V. Tunney
              -C. Arnholt Smith
              -1968

     International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case
           -Dita D. Beard
                 -Secretary
                      -Vance Hartke
                      -Helicopter and plane story
           -Contributions
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     -Democratic

Charles W. Colson
     -Schedule
          -Location
          -Relaxation

Busing issue
     -John D. Ehrlichman
           -Role
     -Rowland Evans and Robert D.Novak

News summary
    -Evans and Novak
    -Politicians
    -Analysis
          -Detail

ITT case
     -Robert H. Finch
     -Effect on the administration
     -Press
     -Finch
          -Quotation
          -Dealing with the press
          -Klein
                 -Possible meeting with Finch
          -Kissinger
          -Rogers
     -Clark MacGregor
     -Colson
     -News
     -Secretary's testimony [Mrs. Stanwich?]
     -Hartke
          -Airplane
          -Harold S. Geneen
          -White House strategy
          -Tunney
          -Questions
                       -Hartke

Congress
    -Use of airplanes
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      -Gill report
            -State Department
                  -Investigation
                       -Alcohol
                       -John E. Hunt
                              -Overseas travel of Congressmen and Senators
                                   -Use of funds
                                         -Kleenex story
                                         -ABC
                                         -Congressmen's calls to the State
                                          Department

Democrats
    -Contributions

Julie Nixon Eisenhower
      -Television appearance
           -Staff viewing
           -Convention plans
                 -John Reagan (“Tex”) McCrary
           -Dinah Shore show
           -Staff viewing

Media
    -Possible meetings with the President
         -Kissinger
         -Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.
         -John Chancellor
         -Howard K. Smith
    -Kissinger's role in establishing meetings
         -Scali
         -Klein
    -Writing press
         -Lunch with Stewart J. O. Alsop
         -Joseph G. Kraft
         -New Republic
    -Cronkite
    -Chancellor
    -Smith
    -Kissinger
    -Handshaking

PRC
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             -Ping Pong team
                  -Visit to the US
                        -Newsworthiness
                        -Travel
             -Pandas
                  -Naming

     White House staff
          -Discipline
               -Klein
               -Finch
                      -Haldeman's forthcoming conversation with Lyndon K. (“Mort”)Allin
                            -Reporting of Finch’s comments
               -Finch’s and Klein's statements
                      -Foreign policy remarks
                      -Youth
                      -Primaries
                      -ITT case
                            -Settlement
                      -Convention
               -Republicans
                      -William V. Roth, Jr.
                      -Sherman Adams example

     News summary
         -Preparation
              -Allin

     Press

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Woods entered at 1:53 pm.

Woods left at 1:54 pm.

Bull entered at an unknown time after 1:54 pm.
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Haldeman and Bull left at 1:58 pm.