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Good morning.

I didn't have it in particular.

I just thought you might have something to do.

You're asking him if you wanted to clean up the line, but he's very upset.

I'll see what I do have.

He's going to be here tonight.

Fine, fine.

Well, that's OK. That won't bother me.

I probably do have some questions.

I'll get them ready.

Well, Garnt is gorgeous today.

Yeah.

Finally got to be nice again.

I hope you're feeling all right.

I don't know how you're doing out there.

Oh, I'm fine.

Keeping your strength up.

That's the only thing.

I'm fine.

It's hard for people that, you know, it's very hard for people that don't know who likes who likes who much, and wants to say the things that people want to hear, and sometimes realizes it's not too big of a problem to stick their chin out and get in hell.

He has done some of that, though, I think.

He did, he must have been, but he didn't do it, what, six months?

reluctant and that's hard though i mean this is a tough deal for a secretary of state you know because he comes up against a terrible committee they're all these horrible people out there

They really do.

They're just terrible.

Oh, sure.

Well, they're fine.

I'm afraid so.

The only question is how it all comes out.

It's going to come out all right.

It's just so many of them sit around, and they don't really think anymore.

Well, they think.

They're just in the political room, so they never think of the country.

Yeah.

They want the energy to win.

They put the couch in.

You could ask that, if she would do.

Sure.

If she got there finally, would they?

They arrived, and then Tricia said that she wanted to have this.

She had dinner on the table, but we sat out where we were.

Good.

They seem to have had a good time, don't they?

Yeah, I think they enjoyed it very much.

So I've got a real box on the schedule for that.

Goddamn tape for this team comes tomorrow, too.

Oh, thank you.

The county had gone ahead and invited people.

I mean, they just tell you a couple of other stories.

Now they're supposed to kill them.

Right, definitely.

In fact, they held the band together.

I don't know what they wanted to do.

They wanted to help her work with his singer, but he didn't put up till late.

And then he realized this morning that it was something else.

No, no, Connie objected.

Connie is just impossible that way.

She's so jealous.

And I'm going to get a hold of her.

And she's going to work on it.

See, Connie...

Pat is not talking about taking Connie to Russia.

Connie wants to go there.

If she goes, by God, she's going to go over there and take Sarah's orders.

She'd be really pretty awful.

I don't think she would.

I don't think she'd argue anyone.

I'm not talking about others.

Well, but you were absolutely right.

She has no idea.

She thinks that things just happen.

They don't just happen.

And Brenda doesn't get in her way.

I ain't got that many to get around, do a few things.

My house is a little different.

My kitchen is different.

And I really clamped down.

Got in China.

It was a disaster.

The whole staff, everybody walking with me every place.

I was totally surrounded.

But this time, the staff and everybody else always

on their separate sites, including Robert's.

And if I ever go out to look at anything, I'm going home.

Yeah, and including Pat, because Pat gets all her own pictures, and then every picture with you.

I know.

For the retired members of Congress, I want the Army Corps, and I want five members of the last Army to be discharged.

And with regard to this paper I heard this week, I would like to have it set up more like a Christmas party with a chorus in each room and with one out in the hall.

Maybe I don't come through on this one.

Do you remember the Christmas parties?

Do you remember we had them?

So that there are things going on.

And I thought then that a chorus there, too,

something that, rather than just people sitting around dancing around playing the cello, Jesus Christ, that just gradually makes me hurt anyway, but it really gets me.

Amen.

Good entertainment, that's right.

It's good, good about the entertainment, you know, that is going on, for them to come up with a good idea, a good game plan.

Because there's a thousand people there.

We should be receiving.

Maybe it's a little over.

Maybe it's a little over receiving the hall.

But we're not going to work out a scheme.

We've got to get to work on it right away because the damn thing is a scarcity.

Well, forget it.

Just say that we will do it in the hall.

But the point is that that means you can't have the music in the hall.

But after we leave, they put music in the hall.

But I want music in two different places.

Put something in there.

So that you see, look, you can't have 1,000 people standing in line for two hours just drinking martinis.

They've got to have something to listen to.

That's what I want.

And I want a program going on.

And in the audience, the people will come through the line.

And the leisurely, graceful way is to give it

They do very well, but they don't understand sometimes that sort of thing.

Maybe I can have this one and then we can go to Duke.

class, which is going to be a nice and fair, and that's something I'm just doing for the thrill of those guys.

I mean, I don't know any of the damn thing, but they, I knew them many years ago.

It's like the way your colleagues class, you do it, should have done probably more for your colleagues class.

Oh, I guess we should have Pierre finally have the time to do it.

Yes, sir, that is.

I do work every day.

And for those guys that served in the Navy, I mean, what the hell?

It means a lot to them.

Why wait on it?

Because they served in the Navy.

So we do that connection there.

You realize that's what it is.

So we've just got a few more events to do.

We do it well.

The thing they had in Canada, that concert type thing, is a good way if we ever wanted to have a big thing to have people in for that night afterwards of it.

about that, you know, an invitation or something like that.

Well, I mentioned it to people that we should use it.

God damn, it can't be centered that way.

And then have our, we can't use it.

I thought the OES thing I mentioned, we didn't do it because somebody else was using it all.

That's a silly story.

There's really nothing, no event left that we can use that for.

But what we should do is go down and hear a concert sometime at 8 o'clock and have a buffet afterwards where everybody sits down and has a nice dinner.

And have the White House staff go down and prepare the goddamn thing.

Like, you know, we carry the White House staff halfway around the world.

Why not put on a stage thing around there?

But I don't know of any event

But then the White House has a state guest, so we've got to get in a state dinner.

Now that would be better for something else.

Well, if you had somebody who had been here before for a state dinner, then you take them there.

That is what the Canadians were doing.

So you didn't have the same railroad.

The horror is to have two dinners.

by the same cut type.

Well, that is by the same thing.

You go to a concert, and you go there, and the elegance of the concert, you have that.

And then afterwards, you drop out, and you have yourselves a big buffet, and a big toast, and you can get the hell out of there.

I'm going to push that next time.

We don't have any, we have no, no problem on it now because also mentioned how we're on our 10th birthday for the lady.

I mean, for my service reception and stuff like that.

And our anchors too.

Colorful even more.

These are just ideas.

I don't want a capital case made out of them.

I don't want a 30-page number written to me about it.

But they're ideas that, you see, they weren't decided.

They were the Butterfield and Lucy and so forth all sit down.

And they do a beautiful job.

But they may not know my views, see, not these.

These are my views.

Pass them then to the hosiery.

But I don't give a goddamn if they decide to have chamber music.

So that's fine.

But I've got the best idea.

The only thing I draw the line on is that I will not have those modern natural disparities.

Well, they make other suggestions other than that.

Well, it's modern.

And you get it, modern is generally some homosexual.

There's no reason to give yourself a road accident out of it.

That might not happen to me.

I don't mind having a homosexual in there, but I mean, I'm not going to have a whole man group that way.

Like, I'm horrible.

The ballet and the modern dance, not in this diversity that you have.

Other people, they have a perfect right to it, but we don't have that here.

Noah Lennon, Elizabeth Lennon, Nancy Hanchel, a tremendous job, because while I don't care about your music, they do, and they go around the country and make all those clowns think I like it, which is marvelous, I'm all for it, I just don't, I just mean that, you know, you have a right in the high house to have what fits you, and it's not going to be so dishonest, you have some kind of life.

But both Lennon and Nancy are just great.

They looked enthusiastic.

Those are nice and enthusiastic, for those people.

The old days were out.

Now, none at all.

There really isn't anybody left.

Is that a great job?

Well, if you stop and think of it, it's a big memorandum.

Our PR people ought to get out of it.

The quality of entertainment we've had here at the White House, the offense that we've done, the way we've used the house, and so forth, that story's up to an extent.

The quality of the entertainment.

I think, as I said, the Kennedys had a horrible family of themselves.

Great old man.

He's 80.

He can't play the cello, but he could play the fiddle.

And for that reason, the Kennedys were found in the history of the art of the White House.

And we had 20 people who had made it back with their songs.

One after another.

Now, they haven't all been there.

But we've had really great impressions.

I think that's Connie's fault.

We don't do good press on this kind of thing.

I don't know how she does it.

She doesn't know how.

I don't know what it is.

When you said it was aggressive, I'm just thinking, I'm sorry, but I don't think they want to write the fact that we have high quality entertainment.

Well, they've read it.

Somebody has to tell them.

Well, I don't think Connie's very much...

That is her job, isn't it?

She should be working seven things to build the White House and the Capitol.

Really, all the time.