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Conversation 719-013

TapeTape 719StartThursday, May 4, 1972 at 12:22 PMEndThursday, May 4, 1972 at 12:28 PMTape start time02:23:49Tape end time02:27:16ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Butterfield, Alexander P.Recording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon met with Alexander P. Butterfield to discuss the administrative handling of upcoming meetings with labor officials, including Frank E. Fitzsimmons. The discussion emphasized the President's desire to keep the FBI strictly out of political matters and addressed the coordination of paperwork involving Charles W. Colson. Nixon instructed Butterfield to ensure that certain executive board actions were finalized promptly once the necessary documentation was received.

Presidential schedulingFBI political neutralityLabor relationsCharles W. ColsonWhite House administration
AudioNARA Description

On May 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:22 pm and 12:28 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 719-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 719-13

Date: May 4, 1972
Time: Unknown after 12:22 pm and before 12:28 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.

     President's schedule
          -Meeting with Frank E. Fitzsimmons and Weldon L. Mathis
                 -Location
                 -Timing
                 -Charles W. Colson
                       -Schedule
                 -Fitzsimmons
          -Other meetings
                 -Richard A. Moore

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 12:28 pm.

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Transcript (AI-Generated)

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And he asked you about it, and you said, no, you shouldn't be in it.
The Bureau is going to stay out of politics.
Good, yes.
He said that.
That'd be very good.
In fact, the word will get all around everywhere.
That's right.
You can say that.
You can say, well, for example, you're in San Diego.
You asked to do monitor politics.
You had one here.
I said, get out of here.
I said, take her over.
One of his strengths, he's never been a part of politics.
I want the barrel totally out of it, so stay out of it.
Right.
Fair enough.
Yes, thank you.
Thank you for the honor.
Just to serve you, as I said yesterday.
Goodbye, sir.
You'll do all right.
Thank you, sir.
Put those people behind me.
Mr. President, the problems with the sentence are still on the paperwork.
I don't know if you can answer that.
Colson has the three other members of the executive board on action.
I know her.
Would he rather delay the collapse or his launch?
Would he rather wait until the sentence gets back?
It would be stronger.
Oh, I don't know what the sentence is.
When does Colson, when would he like to have it?
As soon as the sentence comes over here.
We'll get it out to him.
I hope so.
It's a ring you like to see in the meantime.
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