Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 728 › Conversation 728-009

Nixon, Woods & Butterfield on Camp David and Barry M. Goldwater

Tuesday, June 6, 1972 · 4:01 PM–4:03 PM ET · Oval Office · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Butterfield, Alexander P.Conversation728-009 on Tape 728 (tape position 02:19:19–02:23:15)StartTuesday, June 6, 1972 at 4:01 PMEndTuesday, June 6, 1972 at 4:03 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 728-009 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Rose Mary Woods to handle administrative tasks, including signing documents and discussing weather conditions at Camp David. Alexander P. Butterfield briefly joined the session to consult on the President's upcoming schedule, specifically regarding Barry M. Goldwater. The conversation also touched upon political messaging regarding nuclear defense capabilities and congressional resistance to military building programs.

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NARA Description

On June 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:01 pm to 4:03 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 728-009 of the White House Tapes.

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Conversation No. 728-9

Date: June 6, 1972
Time: 4:01-4:03 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

     Items for the President’s signature

     Weather
         -Camp David

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 4:02 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -Barry M. Goldwater

Woods and Butterfield left at 4:03 pm.

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That's because of our... Jackson's arguing about overkill capability and all this.

You know, we're just...

Also, the argument starting to emerge, I assume because of some of the background, because it didn't seem to come out at the beginning, but it's coming out now pretty clearly, that the question of us giving up anything, or next to giving up anything, is ridiculous.

We weren't on any building program anyway, and we couldn't get one.

Our Congress wouldn't give us one.

You got to get that in.

Yeah.

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All right, I'll do that.

They're not cleared up.

They have a lot of land up there, so.

Maybe that's what you're writing.

If I didn't realize that, I would be reading a letter from a painter.

Huh?

I think this is... No, I can't do that.

I can't do both.

I think that's the problem.

I've got to call the police.

We'll have to check.

Also recorded on June 6, 1972

025-016 2:01 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:01 pm and 2:05 pm.
728-005 2:04 PM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:04 pm to 2:17 pm.
728-006 2:17 PM · 53 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 2:17 pm.
728-007 2:17 PM · 31 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:17 pm and 2:50 pm.
728-008 2:50 PM · 1 hr 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:50 pm to 4:01 pm.
728-010 4:03 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:03 pm and 4:07 pm.
193-001 5:00 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:00 pm and 8:18 pm.
193-002 5:00 PM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:00 pm and 8:18 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 728-009, June 6, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/728-009 (accessed November 2, 2026).