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Conversation 741-014

TapeTape 741StartFriday, June 23, 1972 at 3:00 PMEndFriday, June 23, 1972 at 4:22 PMTape start time03:48:27Tape end time05:02:43ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Rumsfeld, Donald H.;  Stein, Herbert;  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  Bull, Stephen B.;  Spiegel, Edward R.;  Hogan, Harry;  Roland, Fritz;  [Unknown person(s)];  Ehrlichman, John D.;  Finch, Robert H.;  Sanchez, Manolo;  White House operatorRecording deviceOval Office
Audio

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NARA Description

On June 23, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Herbert Stein, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, Edward R. Spiegel, Harry Hogan, Fritz Roland, unknown person(s), John D. Ehrlichman, Robert H. Finch, Manolo Sanchez, and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:00 pm to 4:22 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 741-014 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 741-14

Date: June 23, 1972
Time: 3:00-4:22 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Donald Rumsfeld and Herbert Stein.
[This recording began while the conversation was in progress]

                                        (rev. Feb-02)

     Stockpiles
          -Metals
          -Value
          -George A. Lincoln
          -Henry A. Kissinger
          -The President’s instructions
                -Reduction
                     -Timing
                -Caspar W. Weinberger
                -National Security Council [NSC]
          -Vested interests
          -Food subsidies
                -Food prices
                     -Rumsfeld
                -George P. Shultz
                -Administraiton action
                -Earl L. Butz
                -Administration action
                     -Subsidies
                -Farmers
                     -Income
                     -Political outlook
                          -George S. McGovern

The President left at an unknown time after 3:00 pm.

H. R. Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, Edward R. Spiegel, Henry Hogan, Fritz Roland and unknown
members of the Wolper Organization, Inc. entered at an unknown time after 3:00 pm.

[General conversation]

     Cameras

The President entered at an unknown time after 3:00 pm.

     The President's movements during forthcoming filming

     Instructions for the President

John D. Ehrlichman entered at an unknown time after 3:00 pm.

     Filming logistics

                                   (rev. Feb-02)

Pending Congressional legislation
    -Federal funding provision for localities
          -Local property taxes
               -Problem
    -Busing
          -Equal Educational Opportunity bill
               -Congressional actions
          -Richard K. Cook’s view
          -Moratorium
          -House and Senate action
          -Busing moratorium
               -Possible passage
               -The President’s view
               -Emanuel Celler
          -Detroit example
          -Kindergarten children
               -Effect
          -Parents' feelings
          -Effect on children's social life
          -Equal education opportunity bill
          -Effect of court action
          -Social planners
          -Purpose and effect
          -Harvard professor
               -Study on the effects of busing
          -Racial tension
    -Wilbur D. Mills bill on aid to private schools
          -Administration position
               -Tax credits

Hurricane Agnes
     -Disaster declaration
           -Possible effect
                -Claims
                     -Office of Emergency Preparedness [OEP]
                     -Small Business Administration [SBA]
                     -Federal Housing Administration [FHA]
           -South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia
           -Virginia, Maryland, East Coast states
           -Extent
           -Need for supplemental bill

                                        (rev. Feb-02)

          -Extent of disaster
          -Robert H. Finch
               -Visit to Rapid City, South Dakota

     Filming logistics

     John W. Byrnes

Finch entered at an unknown time after 3:00 pm.

     Finch’s trip to Rapid City, South Dakota

     Byrnes
         -Spending bill
              -Payroll taxes
                   -Administration policy

     Rapid City disaster
         -Extent of damage
                -Finch’s assessment
         -Looting
         -National Guard
         -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's parents

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:00 pm.

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:07 pm.

     Hurricane Agnes
          -Response to warnings
               -Rapid City disaster
          -The President's experience in Florida
               -Palm trees

     Rapid City disaster
         -National Guard
                -Purpose
                -Role in Rapid City
         -Weather
                -Amount of rain

                                    (rev. Feb-02)

      -Letter from Governor [Richard F. Kneip] to the President
            -Tourism

Disasters
     -California earthquakes
           -Rapid City disaster
           -Peruvian earthquake

Hurricane Agnes
     -National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration [NOAA]
           -Robert H. White
                -Theodore H. White
           -Advanced warning
                -Previous hurricane (Hurricane Camille?)

Filming logistics

Hurricane Agnes
     -Fundraising drive
     -Red Cross
           -The President's uncle
     -Salvation Army
     -Ehrlichman's conversation with John W. Dean, III
           -Potomac River
                -Flooding

Filming logistics

Unemployment rate
    -California
    -Washington state
          -Supersonic transport [SST], Boeing Aircraft Company
          -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson and Warren G. Magnuson
    -American-made aircraft in use

SST
      -Necessity
      -The President’s pointer
            -The President’s flights in the Soviet Union and the People’s Republic of China
                 [PRC]
      -Environment
      -Importance of speed

                                        (rev. Feb-02)

          -Space race
                -Great Britain, France, Soviet Union
          -Balance of payments
          -Program for Congress
          -Environment
                -Cost-benefit analysis

     Response to Kneip
         -Finch

     Stockpiles

     [General conversation]

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 3:00 and 4:07
pm.

[Conversation No. 741-14A]

[See Conversation No. 26-1]

[End of telephone conversation]

     [No conversation]

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 3:00 and 4:07
pm.

[Conversation No. 741-14B]

[See Conversation No. 26-2]

The President talked with George P. Shultz between 4:07 and 4:13 pm.

[Conversation No. 741-14C]

[See Conversation No. 26-3]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Instructions for the President
           -Bull

                                           (rev. Feb-02)

           -Photographs
                -Executive Office Building [EOB]
                -Oval Office
                -Ronald L. Ziegler

The President talked with the White House operator at 4:14 pm.

[Conversation No. 741-14D]

[See Conversation No. 26-4]

[End of telephone conversation]

      Photographs

      Gifts for film crew

      Haldeman [?]

The President, et al. left at 4:22 pm.
Transcript

No transcript is available for this conversation.

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