Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 783 › Conversation 783-024

Nixon, Bull & Butterfield on Veterans Affairs and Secret Service

Tuesday, September 19, 1972 · 3:13 PM–3:23 PM ET · Oval Office · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Butterfield, Alexander P.Conversation783-024 on Tape 783StartTuesday, September 19, 1972 at 3:13 PMEndTuesday, September 19, 1972 at 3:23 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 783-024 ↗

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President Nixon met with Stephen Bull and Alexander Butterfield to review administrative scheduling, legislative priorities, and security concerns. The discussion focused on coordinating a signing ceremony for the veterans' survivor benefits bill and managing the President’s travel itinerary, including upcoming events in Texas. Additionally, the participants addressed the strain on Secret Service resources regarding the protection of foreign officials and high-profile individuals.

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Sir, John's on my left.
Thank you.
We've got three little dinky things already on the table.
Gale Sayers, the band of M&M's.
Oh, sure.
Bill's survivor's benefit plan for retired officers coming in in congressional relations.
Staff, Mel Laird, and early friend Colson strongly recommend that you sign this at a ceremony.
It's the bill.
It gives an increase in the benefits for retired officers since the re-computation was killed.
It's the most best thing.
That's a big gain.
And the only other one is
The only other one is that Henry Strube is an imperial potentate of the Shrine of North America.
The Secret Service is stretched very thin.
We're using agents in order to do the job.
You'll check to see if Bob Hall is here.
I'll have to find out what he told us.
It's going to go on.
That's fine.
Thank you.
Out.

NARA Description

On September 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:13 pm and 3:23 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 783-024 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 783-24

Date: September 19, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:13 pm and 3:23 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

             John D. Ehrlichman's schedule
                 -Memorandum

Alexander P. Butterfield entered and Bull left at 3:13 pm.

             Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] bill
                 -Memorandum from Ehrlichman

             Letter [to Mrs. Theodore Bennahum]
                 -Theodore H. White
                       -Rose Mary Woods
                 -Eliska A. Hasek
                       -Appreciation for correspondence

             The President's schedule
                 -Trip to Texas
                      -Speech
                      -Laredo and [Rio Grande High School]
                 -Gale E. Sayers
                 -Frank van der Linden
                 -Congressman [William V. Chappell]
                 -Signing ceremony for House Resolution [HR] [10670] bill for Survivor
                 Benefits for Veteran’s Dependents, September 21, 1972
                      -Melvin R. Laird, Ehrlichman, Charles W, Colson
                      -Cabinet Room
                 -F. Edward Hébert
                      -Bill [HR 2]
                           -Cabinet Room
                 -Henry B. Struby

             Protection of foreign officials

                  -Butterfield's conversations with Eugene T. Rossides
                  -United Nations [UN] meeting
                  -Presidential candidate
                  -Secret Service

              The President's schedule
                  -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman's schedule
                      -[OEO] veto
                           -Ehrlichman
                  -William E. Timmons

Butterfield left at 3:23 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 783-024, September 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/783-024 (accessed October 1, 2026).