Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 783 › Conversation 783-025
Nixon, Haldeman & Woods on OEO legislation and 1972 presidential campaign
Tuesday, September 19, 1972 · 3:27 PM–3:42 PM ET · Oval Office · 17 min
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President Nixon met with Rose Mary Woods, Stephen Bull, and H. R. Haldeman to address a wide range of administrative, political, and security concerns. Key topics included the legislative strategy for the Office of Economic Opportunity (OEO) bill, security precautions for Henry Kissinger, and political maneuverings related to the 1972 presidential campaign. Additionally, the participants discussed various psychic predictions from Jeane Dixon, potential threats to the Jewish community, and routine correspondence regarding presidential memorabilia and gift offers.
- OEO legislation
- 1972 presidential campaign
- Jeane Dixon
- Henry Kissinger
- National security
- Jewish-American relations
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Thank you.
and that we would permit them to credit the amount of their migrating tax as a payment against the business.
I'm going to let the writer walk away.
We could credit the amount of their migrating
In a way, I can see why.
If they've educated these people, it's not like here where everybody pays their honest person.
They've educated these people.
Why should the Jews give out nothing to the Koreans?
at the mental hospital, you know, come on, we've done everything.
You've got big church leaders.
We have no way to protect that anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I know you can do it.
Be careful.
But she's not going
We'll see about that later.
Now, one name, she didn't know who it was, but her thought was Alan King.
Now, he's a fine Canadian.
Yeah, and Alan King was on that telephone to raise money for both parties.
Well, he had a strong, but he had some building, and I'm going to find out a little bit about it in Jerusalem, and something on him, so I'm
Yeah.
You know, poor old Dean, if you have another minute, I'd like to get a couple things out.
Dean Taylor is asking, he says he read somewhere where you were packing out or distributing jackets bearing the presidential seal.
He says it would help you in his district.
I just wonder, you know, people are writing around that, won't everybody want that?
And I thought of, did you ever reach that CIA group on U.S.S.R. officials?
All of them.
All of them.
Okay.
Somebody's asking, and I think they'll stick to this letter, whether you were with a group of Duke students who planned to, like before the big game, you were going to steal the,
I was not an undergraduate.
You were not an undergraduate.
I was in law school.
No, it's not.
I think it's probably a very good idea.
Harold Lee wrote
Sure, and if you're in town, you know, that would be a good point.
Okay, Congressman Hammersmith has written to the stronghold.
Somebody in his district wants a talented gun engraver, wishes to hand engrave a gun for a presentation to you and wants to know what kind you would like.
Thank you.
NARA Description
On September 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Stephen B. Bull, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:27 pm to 3:42 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 783-025 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 783-25
Date: September 19, 1972
Time: 3:27 pm - 3:42 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Rose Mary Woods.
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 32s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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The President's schedule
-Meeting on Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] legislation
Note from Richard M. Helms
Jeane L. Dixon
-Meeting with Woods
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 29s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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-Walter L. Cronkite, Jr. news broadcast
-Possible terrorist bombings of Jews in US by extremist groups
-Possible terrorist attacks on Jews
-As campaign issue for George S. McGovern
-The President’s possible statement
-Woods’s view
-Elmer H. Bobst’s comments about Israel’s attack on Lebanon
-Jewish support for the President
Israel
-Reaction to Munich killings during Olympic Games
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Soviet Jewish emigration
-US –Soviet Union trade deal
-American Jews
-Exit permits
-George F. Kennan article
-Emigration to Israel
-Link between migrating taxes and Lend-Lease debt
-Ukrainians
-Education
-Poles
-American Jews
-Bobst
-Metropolitan Club
Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:27 pm.
The President schedule
-William E. Timmons
-Meeting on OEO
Bull left at an unknown time before 3:29 pm.
Dixon's conversation with Woods
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Protection of Jews in the US
-Arabs
-Difficulty
-Radio, television, newspaper industry
-Clerics
H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 3:29 pm.
OEO bill
-Forthcoming meeting with Timmons
-Haldeman’s forthcoming conversation with Timmons
-Ehrlichman
-Sustainability of veto
Haldeman left at 3:31 pm.
Security
-Kissinger
-Background
-Recent trip to Great Britain
-Work habits
-Social life
-New York
-Meeting with People's Republic of China [PRC] officials
-Protection in public places
-Jill St. John
-Publicity people
-Woods's forthcoming conversation with Ehrlichman
1972 campaign
-Possible release of information
-McGovern
-Compared to R. Sargent Shriver
-Shriver
-News Summary
-Job as ambassador to France
-Bugging
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Robert F. Kennedy
-Robert D. (“Bobby”) Baker
Dixon's prediction
-Katharine L. Graham
-Package
-Warning
Watergate
-Dixon’s view
-Cubans
-Motivation
-Fidel Castro
Jean Dixon's predictions
-Alan King
-Telethon
-Real estate property in Jerusalem
-As possible target for anti-Jewish attack or backer for attacks
-Paul H. Nitze
-Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT] talks
-Possible role
-Soviet Union's possible ultimatum in the future
-Shriver
-Possible shooting attempt
Draft remarks to Young Labor for Nixon [?]
-Amnesty
-Canada
Dean Taylor
-Request for jacket with presidential seal
-Leonard W. Hall
-Jacket
Briefing
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
-Soviet Union
Duke University
-Verification of story about University of North Carolina's mascot
-The President's demeanor as law school student
Nixon library
-Limousines
-Harry S. Truman Library
-Retirement of presidential limousines in current use
-Ehrlichman
-John F. Kennedy's assassination
-Kennedy Library
-Ehrlichman
International law commission
-Letter from Charles S. Rhyne
-Establishment after 1972 election
The President's schedule
-Harold Lee
-Letter
-The President’s previous trip [to Hong Kong]
-John Paul Hammerschmidt
-Offer of gun from constituent
-Gun collection as hobby
-Library
-Hunting
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 2m 11s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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Rose Mary Woods left at 3:42 pm.Also recorded on September 19, 1972
- 030-007 3:10 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:10 pm and 3:12 pm.
- 357-006 3:10 PM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Zosimo T. Monzon, and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 3:10 pm.
- 783-021 3:10 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:10 pm and 3:12 pm.
- 783-022 3:10 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:10 pm and 3:12 pm.
- 030-008 3:12 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 3:12 pm to 3:13 pm.
- 783-023 3:12 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:12 pm to 3:13 pm.
- 783-024 3:13 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:13 pm and 3:23 pm.
- 783-026 3:42 PM · 57 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, William E. Timmons, Henry A. Kissinger, John B. Connally, Clark MacGregor, George E. Christian, Stephen B. Bull, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:42 pm to 5:41 pm.
Cite this conversation
Conversation 783-025, September 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/783-025 (accessed October 1, 2026).