Conversation 783-025

TapeTape 783StartTuesday, September 19, 1972 at 3:27 PMEndTuesday, September 19, 1972 at 3:42 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Bull, Stephen B.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Recording deviceOval Office

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On September 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Stephen B. Bull, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:27 pm to 3:42 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 783-025 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 783-25

Date: September 19, 1972
Time: 3:27 pm - 3:42 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

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              The President's schedule
                  -Meeting on Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] legislation

              Note from Richard M. Helms

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          Jeane L. Dixon
              -Meeting with Woods

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                  -Walter L. Cronkite, Jr. news broadcast
                      -Possible terrorist bombings of Jews in US by extremist groups
                  -Possible terrorist attacks on Jews
                      -As campaign issue for George S. McGovern
                           -The President’s possible statement
                                -Woods’s view
                           -Elmer H. Bobst’s comments about Israel’s attack on Lebanon
                           -Jewish support for the President

          Israel
               -Reaction to Munich killings during Olympic Games
                   -Henry A. Kissinger
               -Soviet Jewish emigration
                   -US –Soviet Union trade deal
                        -American Jews
                            -Exit permits
                   -George F. Kennan article
                        -Emigration to Israel
                            -Link between migrating taxes and Lend-Lease debt
                   -Ukrainians
                   -Education
                   -Poles
               -American Jews
                   -Bobst
                     -Metropolitan Club

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Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:27 pm.

             The President schedule
                 -William E. Timmons
                     -Meeting on OEO

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:29 pm.

             Dixon's conversation with Woods
                 -John D. Ehrlichman
                      -Protection of Jews in the US
                          -Arabs
                          -Difficulty
                               -Radio, television, newspaper industry
                               -Clerics

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 3:29 pm.

             OEO bill
                -Forthcoming meeting with Timmons
                     -Haldeman’s forthcoming conversation with Timmons
                         -Ehrlichman
                         -Sustainability of veto

Haldeman left at 3:31 pm.

             Security
                 -Kissinger
                      -Background
                      -Recent trip to Great Britain
                      -Work habits
                      -Social life
                          -New York
                          -Meeting with People's Republic of China [PRC] officials
                          -Protection in public places
                          -Jill St. John
                                -Publicity people
                 -Woods's forthcoming conversation with Ehrlichman

             1972 campaign
                 -Possible release of information
                     -McGovern

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               -Compared to R. Sargent Shriver
           -Shriver
               -News Summary
               -Job as ambassador to France
                    -Bugging
                         -Lyndon B. Johnson
                           -Robert F. Kennedy
                        -Robert D. (“Bobby”) Baker

Dixon's prediction
    -Katharine L. Graham
         -Package
             -Warning

Watergate
   -Dixon’s view
        -Cubans
            -Motivation
                -Fidel Castro

Jean Dixon's predictions
    -Alan King
        -Telethon
        -Real estate property in Jerusalem
             -As possible target for anti-Jewish attack or backer for attacks
    -Paul H. Nitze
        -Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty [SALT] talks
        -Possible role
    -Soviet Union's possible ultimatum in the future
    -Shriver
        -Possible shooting attempt

Draft remarks to Young Labor for Nixon [?]
    -Amnesty
         -Canada

Dean Taylor
   -Request for jacket with presidential seal
   -Leonard W. Hall
       -Jacket

Briefing

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              -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
                  -Soviet Union

          Duke University
             -Verification of story about University of North Carolina's mascot
                 -The President's demeanor as law school student

          Nixon library
              -Limousines
                   -Harry S. Truman Library
                   -Retirement of presidential limousines in current use
                       -Ehrlichman
                       -John F. Kennedy's assassination
                            -Kennedy Library
                   -Ehrlichman

          International law commission
               -Letter from Charles S. Rhyne
               -Establishment after 1972 election

          The President's schedule
              -Harold Lee
                  -Letter
                  -The President’s previous trip [to Hong Kong]
              -John Paul Hammerschmidt
                  -Offer of gun from constituent
                       -Gun collection as hobby
                            -Library
                            -Hunting

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Rose Mary Woods left at 3:42 pm.

Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Thank you.

and that we would permit them to credit the amount of their migrating tax as a payment against the business.

I'm going to let the writer walk away.

We could credit the amount of their migrating

In a way, I can see why.

If they've educated these people, it's not like here where everybody pays their honest person.

They've educated these people.

Why should the Jews give out nothing to the Koreans?

at the mental hospital, you know, come on, we've done everything.

You've got big church leaders.

We have no way to protect that anymore.

Yeah.

Oh, I know you can do it.

Be careful.

But she's not going

We'll see about that later.

Now, one name, she didn't know who it was, but her thought was Alan King.

Now, he's a fine Canadian.

Yeah, and Alan King was on that telephone to raise money for both parties.

Well, he had a strong, but he had some building, and I'm going to find out a little bit about it in Jerusalem, and something on him, so I'm

Yeah.

You know, poor old Dean, if you have another minute, I'd like to get a couple things out.

Dean Taylor is asking, he says he read somewhere where you were packing out or distributing jackets bearing the presidential seal.

He says it would help you in his district.

I just wonder, you know, people are writing around that, won't everybody want that?

And I thought of, did you ever reach that CIA group on U.S.S.R. officials?

All of them.

Okay.

Somebody's asking, and I think they'll stick to this letter, whether you were with a group of Duke students who planned to, like before the big game, you were going to steal the,

I was not an undergraduate.

You were not an undergraduate.

I was in law school.

No, it's not.

I think it's probably a very good idea.

Harold Lee wrote

Sure, and if you're in town, you know, that would be a good point.

Okay, Congressman Hammersmith has written to the stronghold.

Somebody in his district wants a talented gun engraver, wishes to hand engrave a gun for a presentation to you and wants to know what kind you would like.

Thank you.

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