Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 797 › Conversation 797-028

Nixon & Butterfield on Radio Address and Crime

Friday, October 13, 1972 · 4:33 PM–4:39 PM ET · Oval Office · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.Conversation797-028 on Tape 797StartFriday, October 13, 1972 at 4:33 PMEndFriday, October 13, 1972 at 4:39 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 797-028 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met to review preparations for the President’s upcoming October 15 radio address regarding crime and drug abuse. The discussion focused on the inclusion of a specific anecdote concerning the death of Frank Tummillo, which Nixon intended to highlight to emphasize the severity of the issue. Egil “Bud” Krogh, Jr. was identified as a key contributor to the drafting process for these remarks.

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NARA Description

On October 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:33 pm and 4:39 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 797-028 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 797-28

Date: October 13, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:33 pm and 4:39 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.

        Radio Address on crime and Drug Abuse, October 15, 1972
            -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
            -Anecdote
                -Death of [Frank Tummillo]

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 4:39 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 797-028, October 13, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/797-028 (accessed November 2, 2026).