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Start Date: 18-Oct-1972 9:53 AM

End Date: 18-Oct-1972 10:07 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.Timmons, William E.Ehrlichman, John D.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

803-001.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, William E. Timmons, John D. Ehrlichman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:53 am to 10:07 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 803-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 803-1

Date: October 18, 1972
Time: 9:53 am - 10:07 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

         The President's schedule
             -Photographic session
                 -Forthcoming meeting with Masayoshi Ohira
                 -Forthcoming meeting with Nikolai S. Patolichev, Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                      -Trade agreement
                           -William P. Rogers, Peter G. Peterson
                               -Briefing

William E. Timmons and John D. Ehrlichman entered at 9:54 am.

Ziegler left at 9:54 am.

         Congressional relations
            -Forthcoming adjournment
            -Debt limit
                 -Senate rejecting of spending limit
                     -House of Representatives
                           -John F. Byrnes, Wilbur D. Mills
                           -Possible result of conference
                                -Effect on adjournment
                           -The President’s possible action
                                -1972 election
                           -Treasury Department
                                -George P. Shultz
            -Vetoes
                 -Political effect
                 -Water bill
                     -Reason for veto timing
                           -Override
                                -The President's role
                                    -Joseph W. Martin, Jr.’s view
                     -Shultz
                     -1972 election
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         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Nov-03)

         -Override
              -Increase in taxes
              -Clean water tax
                   -Timing
              -Possible withholding of funds
     -Briefing on spending limit and water bill veto
         -News summary
         -Increase in taxes
              -Press coverage
     -Timmons’s action
     -Water bill
         -The President's veto statement
              -Reaction of Senators
         -Veto override
              -Senators
              -Hugh Scott's response to Edmund S. Muskie
                   -The President’s message for Scott
-Adjournment
-Spending
     -Personnel cuts
     -Withholding of funds
     -Federal personnel cuts
-Adjournment
     -The President’s schedule
         -Telephone call
- [Thomas] Hale Boggs
     -Airplane crash
         -Chances of survival
              -Weather conditions in Alaska
-Adjournment
     -Margaret Chase Smith's forthcoming telephone call to the President
         -Scott's schedule
         -Michael J. Mansfield
         -Smith's view of Charles W. Colson
              -Background
                   -1972 Maine Republican primary
                       - [Robert A.G. Monks]
-Control of Senate
     -Smith, Jacob K. Javits
         -Labor and Defense Committees
-Debt ceiling limit
     -Amendment for extension of unemployment benefits
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

                     -Warren G. Magnuson
                 -Senator’s vote
             -Water bill
                 -George S. McGovern
                     -Campaign activity
                     -Timmons’s comment to the press
                     -Environmentalist appeal on water bill issue
                     -Voting record
                          -Thomas F. Eagleton
                          -Tax increase
                          -Democratic National Convention
                          -Muskie
                               -Mandatory spending
                                    -Presidential discretion
                                        -John Hooker’s [?] telephone call to Timmons
                 -Tax increase
                 -Special interest groups
             -Vetoes
                 -Timing
                     -News coverage
                 -Departments of Labor and Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
                     -Ehrlichman’s recent press conference
                     -The President's schedule
                 -The President’s schedule
                     -New York
                     -Social Security
                     -Higher taxes
                          -John B. Connally’s possible statement

Ehrlichman and Timmons left, and Stephen B. Bull entered at 10:06 am.

          The President's schedule
               -Forthcoming meeting with Foreign Minister Ohira
                   -Length
                       -Possible interruption
                       -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                   -William P. Rogers
               -Meeting with Nikolai S. Patolichev
                   -Briefing
Bull left at 10:07 am.
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Nov-03)