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Conversation 817-015

TapeTape 817StartThursday, November 30, 1972 at 12:15 PMEndThursday, November 30, 1972 at 12:16 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Kissinger, Henry A.Recording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On November 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:15 pm to 12:16 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 817-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 817-15

Date: November 30, 1972
Time: 12:15 pm -12:16 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

        Kissinger’s schedule
               -Meeting with [Nguyen Phu Duc and Tran Kim Phuong]
                       -Message
                             -Vietnam negotiations
                                    -Settlement agreement
                                           -Changes
                                             -60-
                                              60

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Apr.-08)

                                                             Conversation No. 817-15 (cont’d)

                                                    -Bilateral deal
                              -Meeting with the President
                              -Kissinger meeting with Duc
                                     -The President’s meeting with Duc

       The President’s schedule
              -Possible meeting with Nguyen Van Thieu
                     -Timing
                             -Settlement agreement
                     -Purpose
                             -Settlement agreement
                                    -Negotiations
                                    -The President’s retaliation commitment
                             -Kissinger’s meeting with Duc
                                    -Negotiations

Kissinger left at 12:16 pm.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

President, I have five more minutes with the Vietnamese.
They haven't gotten through here with their message.
They've got another three days to know of how they need these changes.
And I've told them there's no chance.
They've got only one choice, to work with us or to work separately.
But let me find out what their additional message is before they see you.
We need an additional message on that.
But listen, in reply to what I told them yesterday, after the meeting,
the other thing is the more i think about it i think the meeting with him with me prior to maybe a hell of a bomb patrol i've told him understand that with me it was with the clear understanding that i'm not there to negotiate
retaliation in the event that we did it.
I wanted to hear it from me personally.
I think there is a hell of a lot to be said for it.
See?
I think, and from every point of view, it would be, from a public point of view, I've already mentioned it to him, not because I say that this is something that we have agreement, we want to hear it from him personally, but John, that I cannot
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