Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 867 › Conversation 867-026

Nixon, Jackson & Bull on Administration personnel and Legal career transition

Friday, March 2, 1973 · 4:08 PM–5:05 PM ET · Oval Office · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Jackson, Samuel; Jackson, Samuel (Mrs.)Conversation867-026 on Tape 867StartFriday, March 2, 1973 at 4:08 PMEndFriday, March 2, 1973 at 5:05 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 867-026 ↗

President Nixon met with Samuel Jackson and his wife to discuss Jackson’s transition from his role in the administration back into private legal practice. The President expressed his appreciation for Jackson’s service and performance while reflecting on the professional opportunities awaiting him at a prestigious law firm. The conversation concluded with Nixon affirming that Jackson’s tenure in the administration provided him with valuable experience for his upcoming partnership.

  • Samuel Jackson
  • Administration personnel
  • Legal career transition
  • Professional development
  • White House staffing

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This is Daniel Jackson.
Well, see, you're going to be a lawyer again.
That's right.
Go ahead.
That's a fine firm.
Well, thank you.
Thank you very much.
One of the big ones here.
How is it?
Nice to see you again.
It really is a tremendous opportunity.
Tell me, are you going to be a lawyer?
I mean, a partner.
Yes, sir.
Good.
Good.
Good.
I'm already here.
You guys are doing good.
I might tell you that both Max Red and Bruce Red
were very helpful to me.
Max was one of the real seniors in the front.
Oh, yeah.
Well, he did run.
He did run, right.
And he hit a lot of the corners, and it was very helpful having him there and having worked with him and having worked with Bruce.
Yeah, you.
So that was very useful.
Thank you, Jason.
Well, I'll tell you, you deserve a lot of your years and so forth, but it's not a question.
I'm going to say you should do it now.
Well, that's right.
I was on for a year and a half.
You're right.
I think you're right.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.

On March 2, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Samuel Jackson, and Mrs. Samuel Jackson met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:08 pm and 5:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 867-026 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 867-26

Date: March 2, 1973
Time: Unknown between 4:08 pm and 5:05 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Mr. and Mrs. Samuel Jackson; Stephen B. Bull and the White House
photographer were present at the beginning of the meeting.

       Jackson's new job
            -Lawyer
            -Opportunities
            -Partnership

       Jackson’s experience in the administration

       Jackson's job performance with administration
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       (rev. June-2010)
                                                            Conversation No. 867-26 (cont’d)

             -President's appreciation

Mr. and Mrs. Jackson left.
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  • 867-022 4:08 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Harold Finger, and Mrs. Harold Finger met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:08 pm and 5:05 pm.
  • 867-023 4:08 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Robert C. Moot, and Mrs. Robert C. Moot met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:08 pm and 5:05 pm.
  • 867-024 4:08 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Richard F. Schubert, and Mrs. Richard F. Schubert met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:08 pm and 5:05 pm.
  • 867-025 4:08 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles L. Ill, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:08 pm and 5:05 pm.
  • 867-027 4:08 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Spencer Schedler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:08 pm and 5:05 pm.
  • 867-028 4:08 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Richard Melich, and Mrs. Richard Melich met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:08 pm and 5:05 pm.

Conversation 867-026, March 2, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/867-026 (accessed October 12, 2026).