Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 874 › Conversation 874-011
Nixon, Hart & Bauer on White House Fellows and Public Service
Friday, March 9, 1973 · 12:31 PM–12:42 PM ET · Oval Office · 16 min
AI Summary
President Nixon met with the group of outgoing White House Fellows to discuss their experiences, the value of their tenure, and the broader responsibilities of public service. During the session, he emphasized the critical relationship between a strong domestic economy and effective foreign policy while advocating for the divestiture of federal power to state and local governments. Nixon concluded by encouraging the Fellows to pursue careers in government, stressing the need for competent and responsible leadership at all levels.
- White House Fellows
- Public Service
- Economic Policy
- Federalism
- Revenue Sharing
- Government Competence
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NARA Description
On March 9, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Thomas Hart, Doug Bauer, Robert Baxter, Jim Bostic, Joseph Carroll, John Fryer, Jim Gross, Steve McConahey, Bill McGlashan, John Mumford, Luis Nogales, Lee Nunn, Jr., Colin Powell, Ann Ramsay, Bill Schrempf, Don Stukel, John Yasinsky, Bernard Loeffke, and Joan Benziger met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:31 pm and 12:42 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 874-011 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 874-11
Date: March 9, 1973
Time: Unknown between 12:31 pm and 12:42 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Thomas Hart.
President's meeting with White House Fellows
-Length
-Arrangements
Greetings
Doug Bauer, Robert Baxter, Jim Bostic, Joseph Carroll, John Fryer, Jim Gross, Steve
McConahey, Bill McGlashan, John Mumford, Luis Nogales, Lee Nunn, Jr., Colin Powell, Ann
-11-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Conversation No. 874-11 (cont’d)
Ramsay, Bill Schrempf, Don Stukel, John Yasinsky, Bernard Loeffke, and Joan Benziger entered
at 12:31 pm; the White House photographer was present during part of the meeting.
Photo session
-Arrangements
Introductions
-Douglas Bauer
-Bob Baxter
-Jim Bostic
-Joseph Carroll
-John Fryer
-Jim Gross
-Steve McConahey
-Bill McGlashen
-John Mumford
-Luis Nogales
-Lee Nunn
-Colin Powell
-Ann Ramsay
-Bill Schrempf
-Don Stukel
-John Yasinsky
-Joan Benziger
Group photograph
-Sale [?]
White House Fellows
-Trip
-Value
-Tenure as Fellows
-Value
-Travel
-Education
Theodore Roosevelt
-World leader
-Treaty of Portsmith
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Conversation No. 874-11 (cont’d)
-Russia, Japan
Presidency
-Importance of office
-Importance of US
-Economy
-European common market
-Great Britain
-Japan
-Military role
-Compared to Europe, Japan
-People’s Republic of China [PRC], [USSR], Vietnam War
-Economic impact of US
-US economy
-Basis of US strength for foreign policy
-Importance
-Impact of President's actions
Economy
-Role of government
-Private enterprise
White House Fellows
-Importance of work
-Candidacies for office
-Need for able people
-Balanced budget [?]
-Competent government [?]
Budget
President's policies
-Budget balance
-Special revenue sharing
-Divestiture of power
-Quality of state, local government
Gifts
-Cuff links
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Conversation No. 874-11 (cont’d)
-Pins
White House Fellows left at 12:42 pm.Also recorded on March 9, 1973
- 874-010 12:15 PM · 24 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Thomas Hart, Janet J. Johnston, and George H. W. Bush met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:15 pm to 12:30 pm.
- 874-012 12:43 PM · 27 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft, and John N. Irwin, II met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:43 pm and 12:56 pm.
- 037-066 12:56 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:56 pm and 1:04 pm.
- 874-013 12:56 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:56 pm and 1:04 pm.
- 874-014 12:56 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:56 pm and 1:04 pm.
- 874-015 12:56 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:56 pm and 1:04 pm.
- 874-016 12:56 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:56 pm and 1:04 pm.
- 874-017 12:56 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:56 pm and 1:04 pm.
Cite this conversation
Conversation 874-011, March 9, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/874-011 (accessed October 6, 2026).