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Conversation: 912-002

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Start Date: 8-May-1973 8:21 AM

End Date: 8-May-1973 9:23 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

912-002b.mp3

912-002a.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 8, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:21 am to 9:23 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 912-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 912-2

Date: May 8, 1973
Time: 8:21 am - 9:23 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

     Watergate       

          -News summary          

          -Harris poll      

                -President’s possible resignation
          -President’s possible resignation       

                -Bella S. Abzug        

                -Previous conversations in Florida       

          -Ziegler’s forthcoming press briefing
                -President’s knowledge of Watergate activities
                       -Exposure to story in newspapers, reports
                       -James W. McCord, Jr.
                       -Break-in and cover-up
                       -Donald H. Segretti
                            -2-

 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                    Tape Subject Log
                     (rev. July-2012)

                                             Conversation No. 912-2 (cont’d)

             -Dwight L. Chapin and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Funds for defendants
      -Dinner for Daniel Ellsberg
-President’s involvement in cover-up
-Role of intent
-President’s conversation with John W. Dean, III, March 21
      -E. Howard Hunt, Jr., William O. Bittman and $120,000
-Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
      -Pentagon Papers
      -President’s instructions regarding leaks
-President’s knowledge of Ellsberg break-in
      -Krogh
      -Timing
      -John D. Ehrlichman
             -Reaction to knowledge of break-in         

      -President’s investigation         

      -Photograph          

             -Justice Department
      -Krogh
      -President’s meeting with Richard G. Kleindienst and Henry E. Petersen,
        April 15
             -Need for disclosure to judge          

                    -President’s reaction       

                    -Press allegations      

                           -President’s prevention     

      -President’s telephone call with Petersen       

             -National security        

                    -Interrogation of Hunt        

-President’s concerns over press allegations
      -Dean
      -Delay in disclosing evidence
             -W. Matthew Byrne           

             -National security        

-President’s meeting with Kleindienst and Petersen
      -Disclosure of evidence
      -Justice Department investigation
             -Confirmation from Kleindienst
                                         -3-

             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. July-2012)

                                                          Conversation No. 912-2 (cont’d)

                       -Delays
           -President’s telephone conversation with Petersen, April 16
                 -Hunt
                 -Ellsberg
                 -National security
                 -Fruits of plumbers’ investigation
                       -Ellsberg prosecutors       

           -President’s knowledge of Hunt’s involvement 


Henry A. Kissinger’s cable
     -Announcement of US - Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] summit
     -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

Watergate
     -Dominance in press
     -Harris poll
           -President’s possible resignation      

           -Special Prosecutor        

           -Implications       

                  -Public support of bold actions     

     -Ziegler’s conversation with Haig on plane 

           -William P. Rogers         


White House staffing
     -Changes
          -Ziegler’s views        

                 -Internal shuffling     

                 -Conversation with Haig   

          -Rogers
                 -Resignation         

          -Leonard Garment and Joseph R. Califano 

          -Kissinger and State Department     

          -Rogers        

          -John B. Connally          

                 -Consultant        

          -Domestic Council            

          -Pentagon         

                                          -4-

              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. July-2012)

                                                            Conversation No. 912-2 (cont’d)

                  -Dr. James R. Schlesinger          

            -William J. Casey        

                  -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]

            -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] Director 

            -Public relations [PR] aspects         

            -James T. Lynn         

            -Richard B. Ogilvie        

            -President’s conversations with Haig, Ziegler 

            -Connally        

                  -Treasury Department           

                  -State Department          

                         -Kissinger        

            -Kissinger        

                  -Foreign policy role         

            Impact on Watergate          


Press relations
      -News stories        

             -Lebanon        

             -Release of Terrance G. Leonhardy in Mexico 

             -River convoy to Phnom Penh 

             -North Vietnam

                   -Invitation to US families to visit burial sites in North Vietnam

Watergate
     -Elliot L. Richardson
     -Ziegler’s forthcoming press briefing
     -President’s knowledge and participation
           -Allegations of cover-up
                  -John N. Mitchell      

     -Funds for defendants       

     -President’s investigation     


Press relations
      -News items
             -Wounded Knee
                 -Watergate
                                             -5-


                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                     Tape Subject Log 

                                      (rev. July-2012)

                                                               Conversation No. 912-2 (cont’d)

           -Ziegler’s forthcoming press briefing 

                 -Disaster Preparedness and Assistance Act 

                        -Transmission to Congress      


     Watergate
          -Hunt’s possible testimony           

               -Charles W. Colson           

               -Clemency         

          -Dean
               -Possible immunity by prosecutors
                     -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] report
                     -Ziegler’s opinion
                     -Dean’s reaction
                     -President’s statement
                     -Prison
                            -Fear
                            -Treatment
                            -Jeb Stuart Magruder
                     -Conviction          

                            -Bargain         

               -Conversations with President          

                     -Tone        

                     -Bittman’s request for $120,000         

                            -President’s response
                            -Haldeman’s recordings
                            -President’s response
                                    -Possible statement by Dean

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 8:21 am and left at an unknown time before
9:23 am.

     Watergate      

          -Ellsberg break-in      

                -President’s knowledge      

                      -Ehrlichman
                -Ziegler’s knowledge
                -Ziegler’s forthcoming conversation with Haldeman
                                 -6-

       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. July-2012)

                                                 Conversation No. 912-2 (cont’d)

             -President’s knowledge        

                   -Press coverage       

      -Revelations regarding Hunt and G[eorge] Gordon Liddy 

             -Timing       

      -Ziegler’s conversation with Ehrlichman          

             -Ehrlichman’s possible departure        

      -National security         

             -Bugging compared to burglary         

             -Hunt and Liddy           

-Ehrlichman’s files
      -Hunt and Liddy
-National security
      -President’s discussion with Henry E. Petersen
-President’s need for counsel
      -Ziegler’s discussions with Haig
      -Garment
-Harris Poll
-National mood
-Rogers
      -Possible departure from State Department 

             -PR impact        

      -Possible role on White House staff 

             -Haig      

             -Kissinger      

             -Haldeman         

      -Image in nation
             -Kissinger
-Connally
-Dean
      -Papers
             -Administration’s attempts to obtain        

                   -Justice Department       

                   -Haldeman’s motion [?]        

                   -Garment          

      -Possible immunity           

      -Possible statements by lawyers        

      -Reasons for departure           

                                -7-

       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. July-2012)

                                                 Conversation No. 912-2 (cont’d)

            -Seeking immunity         

      -Haldeman and Ehrlichman             

      -Possible White House response to attacks 

            -Patrick J. Buchanan and Garment              

            -Money for Bittman          

            -President’s investigation         

-Ziegler’s conversation with Garment
      -Fred D. Thompson’s desire for a private meeting with Ziegler
            -Ziegler’s conversations with Dean
            -Guidance for briefings
            -Ziegler’s and Richard A. Moore’s forthcoming meeting with Thompson
            -Ziegler’s conversations with Dean
      -Thompson’s desire for private meeting with Ziegler and Gerald L. Warren
            -Dean’s guidance for press briefings
-Dean
      -Possible charges against President          

            -Assertions of executive privilege           

            -Blackmail        

            -Thomas A. Pappas          

            -Ziegler’s possible response         

            -Conversations with President regarding funds      

            -Possible response by President            

      -Ziegler’s conversations with Warren and L. Diane Sawyer
            -Newsweek article 

      -Warren’s allegations regarding Dean’s veracity 

      -Jack N. Anderson comments             

      -Conversation with President, February 27 

            -Executive privilege         

            -Dean and L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III 

            -FBI files      

                   -Dean’s possible investigation           

      -Possible strategy        

            -Newsweek article 

      -Possible charges against President          

            -Bittman       

                   -John N. Mitchell         

            -Possible obstruction of justice         

                                              -8-


                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                       (rev. July-2012)

                                                                Conversation No. 912-2 (cont’d)

                  -Newsweek article
                  -Conversation with Ziegler
                        -Feelings for President
                               -President’s statement on immunity
            -Trials
                  -Difficulties for prosecution
                        -Mitchell
                        -Magruder
                        -Dean
            -Dean
                  -Possible charges against President
                        -Bittman
                        -Lying by administration
                               -Clemency
                  -Veracity
                        -Ehrlichman
                  -Meeting with President, September 15, 1972
                        -Possible attack on credibility
                  -President’s request for resignation, April 15
                  -Possible testimony
            -New York Times story
                  -Delay in presenting affidavit
                        -Petersen
                  -Jim Weihard of New York Daily News
                        -Conversation with Justice Department

      President’s schedule      

            -Haig      


Ziegler left at 9:23 am.
                                                -9-


                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                       (rev. July-2012)

                                                              Conversation No. 912-3 (cont’d)