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Oh, I, sorry, I was reading.

If I did buzz, it was a mistake.

We're on the other side.

Oh.

Uh, we will be here probably at about 5.30, sir.

5.30?

Yes, sir.

It's waiting.

It's in.

Okay.

Oh, for about, uh, probably 25, 30 minutes now.

God, well, he doesn't go that long today.

Well, as soon as he finishes having drunk in here, I'm going to come over to the Oval Office and call him in.

Right.

Maybe he's been breathing for 25 minutes, so then anything should be... Well, he went for almost an hour yesterday, I believe.

I know, I know.

He doesn't...

He should be around here, trying to cut it up.

Are you going to make me ten minutes later to get to Camp J for everyone?

To Camp J on Saturday, come on.

Why don't we decide it later and let the lake have some sort of a

Well, given the sound of all the EOD, I might get a chance to search that all around.

Make sure you're going to carry on.

What's his plan today?

He's done that today at the request of the various congressmen he's been dealing with.

He's nursing each one and he's feeling a little more confident now.

He was upset that Christopher turned it down.

What they counsel people to do is send a charter up first.

So if you don't have the man and the charter together, that's a point of controversy.

The charter, he says, is about as total, total figure, about as far as he can go.

And the charter, he's tired of the man.

He's like, I can't stop.

Oh yeah, and he's gonna, I told him... You don't get any of it now that he's trying to put us on here and get, make it, make it run out?

No, I don't.

I don't.

I, uh...

I think Connell here is, maybe wrong on that.

I think he's wrong, but, uh, I told him that, uh, I had sort of given myself two weeks here for transition to get in, because this is a long-term end, and justice is, uh, is probably, probably a challenge.

And I felt that that period was over.

And I just wanted him to know personally that Bob and John had no greater access here than any other of the witnesses.

That's right.

They were out of cards.

Right, right, right.

And he said, I was going to talk.

So we moved just in time.

Just in time.

And I don't think it was her fault.

You know, get into the doctor thing.

I'm curious.

Bob said he knew nothing about it.

Absolutely heard nothing.

John said he was amazed that he was supposed to know.

I was amazed.

Do you understand?

When I mentioned it, he cannot think.

I didn't hear about the Buchanan thing until after.

The story broke.

And then Buchanan says, I knew this all along.

Everybody in St. Louis was talking about it, you know.

And everybody wondered why this crazy MacGyver did not ask.

Well, that's really an idea.

At that period, we just left the favor on him.

I remember you saying in a meeting or some place where I don't know what was going on, we're not going to touch it.

I don't get into it at all, because either way, it was not her.

I mean, she couldn't touch it, because it was a personal one, too.

In a personal tragedy.

And I said, don't touch this thing with a 10-foot pole.

The one thing I wondered about, I had a sneaking hunch early.

This letter says that government agents came and asked

He said, I was contacted by officials, or investigators, general investigators.

Before asked, he didn't.

So carefully done.

Didn't mention any name or date.

He said, subsequently, my office was burglarized.

And did he go ahead and mention his name at all?

Well, then why do we think he's the evil in psychiatrists?

Is he?

We don't know, Richard.

We don't know.

My guess is he is not the evil in psychiatrists.

The evil in psychiatrists is it lives in, is a psychosomatic.

Well, there was a period, three times, I was so upset he came into this country, Philadelphia, remember?

Yeah, I know.

Eagleton was in jail in Philadelphia.

The bazaars are not ready to be upset about this.

This igloo, in my recollection, was never treated in New York.

I mean, that should be checked out, too, for crying out loud.

Before we get our bowels uproar about the whole thing.

Unless it's...

Unless it is.

The only thing I'm concerned about is this.

You can easily find out.

God damn it, if you just ask Pat Buchanan, where the hell is he going to treat you?

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but for Christ's sakes the only thing I was wondering about is whether... Well, that's a different point.

If it is a demon, then you know it's a God-man thing and it means nothing.

The other thing is, if it is a man, you wonder if demons...

We didn't know what the price of eating was up to around here.

I don't know, you know what I mean?

It's all conceivable.

I know that's why we had to take each order.

That's right.

He ran over to that, uh, uh, his ear, and the other brother ran there and got close.

I don't know.

He would have done to me.

I was so scared of the people on that evening.

I said, stay miles away.

Thank God, they don't know.

You know?

Well, what hands was it in ours to find out whether he

A lot of your money is not ours.

I don't think for a moment it is.

Because I've never been fined at all in time, I don't remember any of it.

Well, you're sure you don't think about our total support and all that sort of thing?

And who's left here?

Bob and John are gone?

Yeah.

Who else does he want to take care of?

I'm not quite sure.

Anybody else?

Did you get any call from Brandon about any one of our virtual years?

No.

He hasn't called me.

I haven't talked to him since then.

I'm telling you, you can't be morally wrong or ethically wrong with people.

If you're right, they're not having to come back to you with that analogy.

Well, that's on him.

Concerning just a little about Schultz and the way he handled us for the column of New York.

So the guy who's going to test him in charge, in fact, he's going to test him.

He's going to be asked to call up as a witness to talk about clemency.

Because he called as a witness, he fired him.

He called him.

Now, call him to tell you that case was not a case of genocide.

He talked to Schultz, and I'm sure that's the source of that.

Because, I don't want to mention Caulfield.

I didn't even know who the hell he was.

In fact, he was the key guy in Tomfax.

He can't have any more of his friends because he's got a Caulfield on his side.

I mean, Caulfield.

Well, Caulfield is all the letters in front of you.

But I, the other thing is that Caulfield, in the early days, did,

He needs to focus his life to be on the bridge, and off to Quincy, and one of the people over in Virginia.

I may have done that.

Either that, or I would also call it field work.

I think on the, months ago, if he worked, just totally,

for Colson on a general clinic investigation.

You know what I mean?

So they had a jury on and so forth that he had some guy working.

But I, we're gonna, we're not gonna worry about it.

We're not gonna worry about it.

It's not, it's not that much of a problem.

I mean, Paul Field is, I don't know whether he did something or he didn't.

If he didn't, you gotta be, you gotta be strong up for him.

If he didn't, but I just sort of hate to see, you know, I don't like to see this

That guy's full of confidence, says, take out Higby and Holland.

Well, everyone.

Not just Higby, though.

Everybody.

Everybody that left the White House and went to a department.

Like what?

Butterfield, Whitaker.

He just ticked them all off.

Will you?

Well, I tell you, I thought very hard about it, sir.

I listened to John, and I said, you may be right.

I went home that night, and I thought about it.

And that's when I came in and he asked the name on it.

I wanted you to know what his position was.

Yes.

I can't believe that that kind of name on it.

It's easy.

Your ass is covered.

You know the record.

But God damn it, that hasn't been your style.

And it is not.

Well, my style is to stand by people when they're in a terrible fire.

That's right.

I believe there will come a day when the devil will break her.

for him around, you know what I mean?

He'll be in, he'll be in.

He'll be in, and when he is, on that day, we'll take his resignation.

You get my point?

Sure.

And you could say, well, you know, it's the same principle, you reply, and then you have to agree or reply, all that.

It's the, it just is.

See, I don't believe in doing that.

And then, frankly, I think, I think it makes the, it's, as I say, as I said in my toddler speech, it's a cowardly thing.

to say, well, somebody else is lying, and it takes them to think, well, I personally take responsibility for my people, but I stand by people, and God damn it, because they are like a Higby that Higby's called as a witness, but they didn't do anything, God damn it, I don't fire them.

That's exactly right.

And the only reason I'm taking this action is to protect Higby so he doesn't become a point of contention.

That would be bad.

That would be very precious.

I told him this was temporary.

I talked to him when I first came in about it.

I said, you're going to, I'm not going to make a move.

You're going to be able to do everything that was your forerunner.

And I just want to be able to say that we've, uh, we've kept an equal, equitable hand here.

And there's no, well, he really kind of liked it.

in the U.S. Attorney's Office about his loan.

None of you get the bizarre.

And it's all taken care of.

The other day, and I said this to Elliot, I said, you know, the President's file is not to, he's not going to do the easy thing, which would be to have a goddamn house clean,

I'd cover everybody's tail because everyone's out and it couldn't possibly be anything.

I've gone for two weeks, come up to this problem.

The steed's doing it.

He said, I can't come down.

So I'm going to do it.

I'm going to do it.

Let me know when.

What all will they crack on you today?

Well, actually, they went back to the Dean thing and the report, and I said I covered that yesterday.

They got into the CIA thing a little bit.

I said, gentlemen, look, there's no answer that I can give you that would be of no justice to individuals involved or to the institutions involved.

I said, there are a number of proceedings moving on this matter.

Well, not yet.

Not yet.

I did have a chance again to pick up your line on 69 and 70, why there was concern not only in the White House but throughout government on national security matters and the issues that carry through.

We got into a little thing about

what you were doing and what you had told the staff.

And I went through trade, energy, Iceland, Cambodia, meeting with the French at Kissinger.

I said, you had been, when I saw you this morning, you were working on cables to Kissinger for his upcoming meeting with the French.

And went through all of that.

And I think it, you know, gave him a feeling of .

That's right.

And that's what I, that's what we .

He said there's been a perceptive feeling over there.

Yeah.

business going on and going forward, he said, I want you to know this is a very, very heavy.

That's why the Catholic community tomorrow.

We'll have the various Catholic officers tomorrow.

I'm just thinking rather than just making it one subject, we can let some of them hop off and tell them what they've been doing.

Call them on it.

That's right.

They want the responsibility of what they're doing.

Then they said, I got an impression.

I said, the president wants to discuss this at the appropriate time, you know, and so forth.

He understands that you're asking about it.

He's considering these subjects.

But you didn't try to tell them after the reaction?

Well, I left it loose.

I just left it loose.

Well, that's an in-house problem anyway.

It doesn't matter.

But they were not vicious.

They got into a little bit about, you know,

Do I still – just literally still enjoy my – we had a good experience.

It was a better feeling out there today.

You know, not a riot against you or against the White House at all.

It was more – it was a little – it was a more perspective today.

You know, let me talk about one other thing briefly.

This business, you know, of the – of the –

you being the press secretary.

I can throw that one.

I just feel so strongly about that.

You have people who come around and say, Ron doesn't have credibility with the press.

That is not really what the question is.

The question is if the government administration doesn't have credibility with the press.

Don't you agree?

I think your relations are pretty good with them, aren't they, Ron?

Yes, personally.

They don't think you lie at all.

Forget the personal relations, but they do not think you lie at all.

See, their reaction

Many who don't understand the choice is not against you.

It's not against me.

It's against the White House and what they perceive happened here.

They don't – no one makes a charge that you lied on the 29th.

See, no one makes a charge that we lied during the course of the briefings.

It's what happened that led us to make the statements, you see.

Now, we've explained that in the dean report.

But they got it just in a very nice way.

Not a nice way, but not in a belligerent way at all today.

They said, has the president ever discussed you attending SEMI?

And I said, or have you discussed it with the president?

I said, yeah, not SEMI, but taking other responsibilities or something.

I said, gentlemen, I will do my best and continue to serve in this position as long as the president wants me to do so.

And my conversations with him do not relate to me personally.

And I'm going to do my best to provide answers and to get the information for you as long as the President wants me to serve in this position.

And for Jack White, I've got a note from Murray Chodner of all people who has a great personal tactician and a lousy PR fellow who says that he thought a good move would be to have Klein be the press secretary and have him removed from that position.

I honestly do.

He's a great fellow.

But the point of it is, changing a man, I'll step aside as we've talked about this, but changing a man, even when he went out there yesterday, you know, they start going at anyone you put out there.

until we get through this.

It's not the individual.

And the worst thing to do, if you did that, that would be when they would say, ah, you must be the one.

That's right.

Or they say, Nixon admits that the White House has not come clean in its press briefings on this subject.

I will never, never, never do it.

That's funny.

And by the way, we have been clean.

We've tried to do it.

And we're continuing to.

We just don't do that.

We checked that story that was so upset about the psychiatrist.

They found this from New York, rather than Philadelphia.

Incidentally, I don't remember any counts.

Where, couldn't you check on your phone right now?

Where was he?

That was impressive.

In Missouri.

Missouri, that's what I know.

I've never heard of this being treated in New York.

He was not in New York.

I remember in Philadelphia.

That's why I heard that when you said Philadelphia.

New York.

Now, see, this is a New York psychiatrist.

I think it's a total pony.

And Mazzara does not get as excited about such a thing.

This is a pony.

He was treated in a Missouri hospital.

Every time.

There was a state.

Mayo Clinic.

One time.

At the Mayo Clinic.

That's right.

Mayo Clinic.

Not Philadelphia.

Yeah.

He was not treated in Philadelphia.

But anyway, we did the things upon him.

So we're going to make peace.

And now how?

On it.

I think that it would be good to, if it wasn't, if it wasn't people and psychiatrists, if it's nothing to give to the earth,

there's something in there because that might smoke on the down ground normally but it is investigated but it is a personal investigator i'm scared to follow this down that's right did you record it or who are the people that did it and the best way to deal with that some of the bitches in writing

We're moving up.

What is the aftermath of our story in the house?

Is anybody still claiming they stole the money?

No, no, no.

I told them that matters being put together, but I said, I want to add, gentlemen, and it was not an intense reading today, but I said, I just want to make this point.

You were asking me these questions as a result of a hoax.

And I said, over the years, I again want to remind you that the president has put out probably more complete financial statements than any other president ever has.

Now, I understand you're not a giver.

I recognize that you're asking this question.

We don't mind giving you this information.

And so let's put them together.

We'll just take it and shove it right down there.

I say, I understand and stand in your direction.

indicates they will retract if their story is shown to be untrue so what it's a little late to go ahead and sign i said the senate has rejected this as a hoax we have rejected it as a hoax and now the santa and the register will be retracting here very shortly i guess that now so you're going to find lots of spurs floating around very

All sorts of nutheads come in.

You must have, every time a story comes up, figured that somebody on our staff must have done something.

I mean, here, Bob Hall didn't know a goddamn thing about the eagle, and I told the whole status state hell about the eagle, and I don't know who the hell could possibly have done anything.

I think it's a goddamn hoax.

Another hoax.

I said to the eagle, in relation to the eagle that I know was asked today, I said, can you categorically deny that there is...

I said, yes, I can.

I said, I know that...

The president's awareness, my awareness, and my observation around here was there's no information whatsoever here until the story broke.

I didn't, you know, parse myself.

That's true.

That's right.

And then I went on to say that, yes, I can deny that there was ever anything in the White House files on that subject.

That's right.

But, you know, I didn't...

Right, right, right.

You are.

There's enough... And I worry about it.

No, I left enough air that, you know, I wasn't forced into going deep and hollow.

That's right.

Early...

Although I know it's true from the standpoint of Irving and Holland.

But you don't know about someone sitting over there in the OB somewhere.

So I stayed on the president.

Which is true.

I remember sitting down and talking to you when the thing broke.

We did know.

Matthew 10 was the one that was dead.

He lived in St. Louis, and he says he thought he was the one that got the elected candidate.

There were rumors.

Well, there's drunkenness, for example.

I didn't hear, we didn't hear about that.

Plenty of honors, if you can.

Another point is, uh, we'll do our thing about this, uh, this, this, this damn old CIA story.

Be ready to move on.

And also, there's a big study.

But I tell you, that big study does not need to be, and all that much of a liability doesn't run.

The need is on that side.

No, it doesn't have to be a liability.

We have to, I think, look at it as a, as a catalyst, as a basis.

We've got to look at it in terms of fighting it.

When it comes up, it's obviously there.

We're going to have to see what they do.

They've got to make the next moves.

We've got to get ready for that.

Be ready to move.

Not only on our own.

I just talked to him.

He's talked to everybody in the act.

We've called the two admirals, the admiral and the general.

They're coming back.

We've got a written affidavit from Tarbello, and one from Dick Helms.

Well, what did Dick Helms say?

The news reports are precisely this.

Houston sent a written affidavit.

Houston said that he knows it was a piece of paper resending, and he recalls it now.

Look at it as an event to use in the context of

cleaning it all up.

I don't mean you could use it cleaning them, but use it as a way to... Look, we're all going crazy about this, but let's understand that we're National Security Investigations.

They had to take a place.

They were taking a place.

We were being responsible.

This paper was one of them.

We're at a very stage to become a recommended course of action.

It was, however, not inquisitive.

That's right, but my point is to say that

make that point and make the point of separation, you know, make the points that have to be made or we can clean out on, you know, water gate breaking and all that.

Use it as a catalyst.

Do you agree, Al?

If it crystallizes that way, that would be ideal.

I don't want to tie the problem that I see with the theory, I don't want to, I don't want to sort of tie

Well, my point is to separate them and prevent others from dying.

That's what I'm saying.

That's my point.

Yeah.

See, because others were trying time, as opposed to— See, that's the right way to look at it, in the position of having it confront this issue, in my view, is that there was—there was conspiracy.

This is broad, covered everything, and was really designed to— Well, they kept saying that.

That's—this is not a new charge.

You heard at the time of the May riots and so forth.

In 1971, there was a talk, government-wide, there's a conspiracy against the press, conspiracy against various things.

In other words, this is the old thing that we run into.

It's an issue we can win on now.

That's right.

That's what we're talking about here.

If we play around.

That's right.

You're not saying it's not the time to get it, but the huge, ridiculous charge on this being that

Put down the other.

And as a dramatic move for separation.

The president, well, there's, that's the type of thing.

You say that, you say that he, that if Houston says he remembers it, there was a piece of paper we're sending.

Yeah.

He said he remembers it and...

He's gone.

God, they may remember some piece of paper.

I don't think it's, that might have been, would all have been handled orally then, if I would have sold them a manhole.

Yeah, she said they put the paper out, and then they were worried about handing it out, the recension, the recension order.

So they then recalled the recension order, and relied on the telephone calls that were made.

But they just didn't want that like it should.

They wanted the paper out.

Sounds like you should.

But, in other words, while the rescindion order will still be effective, there will be evidence that it was rescinded and it was implemented by telephone call.

That's right, because Tardello made notes at the time.

He got testifying to it.

Ted Tardello, he said he's got an affidavit of him already.

No, he's getting one.

He's getting one.

He doesn't have any accounts.

He's not trying to get an affidavit.

So you've got, you've got after days, you've got testimony, you've got...

There's just one last thing.

You'll tell Helms to stand firm, won't you?

Yes, sir.

God, God, he doesn't, he mustn't do it.

Well, I think he's, uh, I've got a call with him, but he's got plenty of work to do.

Yeah.

Okay.

Tell him to do it.

Well, well, Bazaar said that Helms was asking him Sunday whether he'd Monday night as to whether or not Helms totally ought to resign as a result of this.

because they made these psychiatric studies.

I said, well, what the hell's wrong with that?

Oh, well, they're not supposed to be any domestic.

I said, well, Christ, the Ellsberg case was not just domestic.

It was poor and domestic.

We couldn't mix it up.

You know what I mean?

I mean, good God Almighty, I think that Ellen should stand firm on this.

Absolutely.

We have to, let's, let's, I mean, all of these, we can't cave, God, if you cave, there'll be anarchy.

People are trying to run through here, and we make the right moves, I'm convinced,

up to this point.

Now it's time to stand there and put our position and fight them legitimately.

I don't mean, I don't fight them on a well-thought-out, well-planned, legitimate basis.

We don't have to be obsessive about what we're all doing.

This thing can be put in perspective.

The only question is not putting it in perspective.

It can be put in perspective.

It's a time.

That is the crucial answer.

And I think we should, you know, do the things that gets, you know, people in, not on the domestic side and this type of thing.

I do think we should do that.

Well, we have a captain tomorrow.

I don't know if you want something more today.

No, no.

You don't have to do that.

You have a captain tomorrow.

If you can do that session with a man with a rocking chair, we don't need to do that.

Thank God.

They had an old schedule for wires.

But anyway, at the end of the day, fellas, we've got to realize that shit's still gonna fly, but we mustn't get in a, every time an enemy comes out,

But the fight is, we played that.

I don't even realize that.

about what this administration did.

In other words, see, he was part of it.

He was part of it.

He was, he was the guy, I don't mean just Watergate, but good God almighty, Gene was involved in this.

He was a, I could structure his testimony almost how I could.

Dean would go for Groverman's judgment, and he'll set himself up as a man who, fighting for the presidency, believed in the presidency, stood up,

used to do things.

I don't want to extend my prediction.

I don't know.

He knows this.

The other thing, he carries in the back of his mind, too.

I was thinking about this last night.

He is not about to impact the president.

Because if this thing doesn't unfold the way he wants it to, look at three years.

three years and nine months down the road, he's got to have somewhere in the back of his mind, well, after all this folds over and so forth, you know, what is my last chance?

Right?

Well, you mean, but that's not even, I mean, you have to worry about that.

Yes, he does, too, because he may not relate to what can be proved about him by others.

Oh, shit.

Do you agree with that, Al?

Well, my... Well, Jim, I'd like to hear you completely.

I'm not here to spread this testimony on you.

You could have completely.

Yeah.

But what I don't think he can afford to do, or would do, would be attack Mother Church.

Mm-hmm.

He cannot attack Mother Church.

It's an unforgivable crime.

I just cannot believe you can do that.

John Dean is not even a form of opponent.

That's a little exaggeration.

And it would mean nothing in any event, because he's got the whole case is going to go around with John.

It's all going to do with his relationship with John.

He had no access to you in the amount of time.

I don't like early March.

So take that kind of heat.

Even in the worst case, it wouldn't be a thing to do.

Well, I'm pretty much, and of course, he's keenly aware of the fact that my state of immunity, uh, hurt him.

So that's, that's not, that, that, that, he'll, he'll say, well, the purpose of that was to keep me from talking.

But, but, you know, what does an average person say?

Look, I mean, you've got to get immunity before you tell the truth.

Do you?

Yeah.

We were trying to not let out all this national security stuff from the dirty tricks and so forth.

He's going to try to be the paragon for a shot.

I'm sorry.

I didn't see him run this way, saying, gee, yes, I did participate in all this, but I redid it all, unwillingly.

I did that in quarters.

It was wrong.

I'm sorry.

And the only way to clean this up is now to make a full press of it.

I urged the president to do so, marginally first.

The president did not act then.

Although he did not already produce some of that.

He just told you what the story was, but he didn't tell me to give it to you.

Yes, Mr. President.

The answer to that question is, how could you act on a recommendation from a man who had misled you for 10 months?

Well, misled me, and that's the whole point of it.

We find it down to a very, well, the one thing, one lesson.

You do have, you can get the number of FBI reports to which you did have access

Well, we're trying to use charge during the break here.

I'm certain you can find that right here.

Can you get the number of interviews he did sit in on?

Can you do that?

There's no time to do that.

I would get it.

I think that's very, very good solid stuff.

That's solid stuff.

All right.

Here.

Thanks, Scott.

Cool.

All right.

Well, I don't know if you get it out in the press or... Well, they're...

The committee, she has some sources in the committee.

Yeah, no, she has a different...

So the committee's having a big time, isn't it?

Are you watching the hearing?

No, I don't know.

I just turned it in just... No, I don't know.

I just turned it in just to get a feel of it this morning.

Do you see any of the... to get a feel of it this morning?

Did you see any of them today?

It's just not going to work.

It's not going to wear us.

It's going to wear us.

Until they get the big stars.

Good job.

Why?

I think we are at the same place.

Why?

I think we are at the same place.

Why?

I think he's right.

Why?

I think he's right.

I mean, look at it this way.

You know, you try.

You know, you can make all the arguments you want, but they get on anyway.

You can make all the arguments you want, but they get on anyway.

Better way for this to start off than to be part of something you abolish means of what it's all for.

Better way for this to start off than to be part of something you do.

the indictment and get this in the courts.

And then let the committee for the indictment and get this in the courts.

And then let the committee for the law, the law of the indictment and get this in the courts.

And then let the committee cripple off a god damn shit about spreading that crime.

A god damn shit about spreading that crime.

And then just some reviews.

And then just some reviews to have.

Other words?

Don't.

Don't continue.

Don't continue to have talk on their issue.

Talk about our issue.

In other words, our issue.

In other words, you see my point?

You see my point?

Now, understand, you see my point?

Understand, if it turns out that they are wrong, they're wrong.

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not concerned about being naked.

But we can gain some points.

We can gain some points too.

If that is the issue.

But we can gain some points too.

If that is the issue.

But my whole point is this.

It's the old story.

It's wherever you can.

If wherever you can, avoid having everything about it.

The other policy, the date law.

The other policy, the date where you do everything about it.

The other policy, the desk law, you ask about it in an hour's briefing.

In an hour's briefing.

And yesterday, you're asked about it in an hour's briefing.

You're asked about it in an hour's briefing.

God damn it.

That's our issue.

I just don't want you to work so hard.

I think it's great.

I just don't want you to work so hard.

I think the worst part, no, the point is we don't want to go too long on it.

Yeah, the point is we don't want to go too long on it.

Yeah, I think you ought to say it.

I think the point is we don't want to go too long on it.

I think you ought to say it.

Yeah, I think you ought to say it.

Because I'm one of the pros and I say awesome.

How about making it three and a half hours each?

I would make it three and a half R. I'm getting some of the pros as they fall asleep.

I can count on it, but I bet it won't.

Right.

Yeah.

Thank you.