Nixon, Casey & Cavanaugh on People's Republic of China and Acupuncture

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President Sanchon, what's the president's all about?

How are you?

I'm good, sir.

How are you?

I'm good, sir.

Uh, we were exposed to certain things.

That's a doctor.

I got a quick picture.

I got a press-expression.

All right.

Officer, officer.

We had a navigation.

We had a...

We have, of course, we thought they came to us early that time.

Well, again, the reason we're here today is because we have a big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big,

I must remark that we were privileged to have some information.

The Chinese, of course, had exposed Anglican culture in this country.

But there was a lot more women in medicine that had been exposed to this country.

We were a minority group.

We were exposed to the treatment of leukemia, for instance, by traditional and Western medicine.

This is very exciting, because in certain areas of the community, they're not losing any cases, so to say that our record isn't quite that good.

There are other medical conditions, of course, that they're treating that we're not touching in this country.

They're reporting to us that they are treating that.

They're not writing deceptive literature.

The General China Medical Association has just recently started to publish, and that occurred in January of this year.

Whether or not they're going to report some of these things in that journal, we don't know.

It's still a political situation.

We did see three operations that were going to be put together in the station.

One was a pyroidectomy, one was a gastrectomy, a removal of the stomach, and the other one was a removal of the cartilage from the knee.

All of this done without any pre-preparations, without any anesthesia, other than two needles.

Just fantastic.

But I have to tell you this story.

We had a member of our delegation

who developed an abscess tooth.

He went to the dental clinic and became an acupuncture specialist, applied.

The tooth abscess was incised and drained for life.

And they had me, tell me that, returned to our delegation without any OVC or xylocaine or whatnot.

And while there, I learned that he brought a fact to this country.

And I've navigated to about 20 different dentists.

One dentist has done over 140 tooth extractions or mouth fillings without the use of no caner, xylocater, anything of that type.

As a matter of fact, it's sort of getting a little local reputation in the community and they know how press are.

They want to know if this is really true.

So,

This was done on one of the movie photographers.

It really works.

Completely, completely anesthesia on one side.

Just pressure in this point.

I can just show you.

Pressure here for about 30 seconds to a minute.

And that gives you anesthesia from this end over.

And you can pull teeth or anything else you want.

You see, these are old circumstances.

That's right.

So it was quite remarkable, and of course we want to return to study this in detail.

And felt that some of our efforts at least should be exposed to the general public.

There are other things that we can discuss about China.

Of course you saw China from a different point of view.

And we saw it really, I think, from a people's point of view.

Much better.

Much better than what I saw.

That's correct.

And it was everything that, from a people to people point of view, they're very much interested in the United States, interested in the people of the United States coming to China and visiting.

We hope that these efforts will be expanded.

We're trying.

Our conversation with John and I, and the speakers have, of course, our correspondence with them.

We're doing the best we can.

We have a congressional foundation with a very diverse service.

They are much more responsive in the medical area, the scientific area, and the others.

They much prefer that to the political.

Yes.

But we've got to do a little more.

Of course, they go through some of the things that are small.

The real gun thing that matters to me is the type of thing you did.

I mean, after all the years and years and years you were tracking some of the ablest people, not the under-worked people, but the ten abled people.

And it goes back to the years when they've had a great deal of education and their passion and all of their lives.

every crew produced there for a remarkable, whether it's comics or whatever it is, and not because they're comics, but because they're Chinese, they're a remarkable people, right?

And under these circumstances, therefore, for us not to have close communication, to learn from them,

as well as hoping that they might learn something from us.

We may learn a lot from them than they from us.

This is going to help them and us and the world.

That's what the game is all about.

And thank goodness that they can teach us something about anesthesia that we don't know how to use.

Who knows, for example, who's going to find one of the cure or cures, and there may be not one, but maybe cancer or arthritis or whatever.

They can do extra checkings.

It could be anyone.

It could be somebody in the Congo.

It could be somebody in Argentina.

The main thing is that there must be no barrier to keep the scientific and medical professionals from communicating with each other on the freest possible basis.

In fact, you and I can share your trip with none of your colleagues and so forth.

That's my total support.

I thought it was as much as he busted a can.

It's an ambulance.

He took two of them.

It's at least 50 years old.

We heard it was a patient.

400 friends.

But they would have said he was autistic.

Today, it's interesting for us to see what our country is.

Our country is not, I mean, our country is the world, right?

In fact, for instance, in China, it's over.

We have about, it's part of our recommendation, well, that in the official delegation that goes to China, we think that the representative group, of course, is entirely, you know, right, and we certainly, you know,

I want you to know we have an appreciation for the country.

I mean, I tried to do your practice.

You are going to teach.

Well, I teach at practice, too, but it's getting where it's at.

This has been a tremendous year.

It's been, you know, every month I think that this is going to level off, but it really doesn't, and it continues to go on.

You know, it was...

everything in their country about health care delivery system.

And this is the primary reason, of course, that we went over there to see how we could relate between the two countries and the government as to what we could learn about delivering health care.

And it sort of gulls me to come back to this country and other people coming back to this country and say, well, health care is free.

Provided degree.

You and I both know that someplace somebody has to make an application.

Somebody must do it.

And to our surprise, we found that when we really got to the top of that, when this was the Minister of Health, they have a national health insurance.

It's a prepaid sort of thing.

Everyone made it on a monthly basis.

the factory workers, the textile workers, the commune peasants, and so on.

And their concept of providing health care through the bear lip doctor, paramedics, is something I think we can learn in this country, and certainly investigate on a regional basis, if not a national basis, as to how we can best utilize paramedics to provide the first national law of accessibility

And I know through your messages to the Congress, you're very much concerned about accessibility and quality of care to all of our people.

But it was most interesting to see how they were providing this through a national health insurance company.

Well, I wish you the best.

I don't suppose they have anything that's exalting you?

No, we discussed this.

They have never seen a case.

Of course, we're not turning such a digital soul into a certain group.

There is a certain area of the world, and only those people who migrate from this area of the world are exposed to it.

You know, we registered also under hypertension, because I know that we have a tremendous hypertension problem in this country.

And surprisingly, they've only had 50th message to the barge.

Finally, we've been hustled.

We've been hustled every day.

Every nine months period.

So they rationally have hypertension.

And I don't know when hustled back to the rice.

But I don't know.

Just wait a minute.

You've got a couple of rich food and all that.

We have the kind of life we need.

They're very much more philosophical, stoic.

Well, now we're going to get to the side.

Thank you very much.

And I wanted to thank you very much for the National Medical Association, of course.

They're a very fine program.

You've got it.

I'm trying to get it.

We're trying to do a lot of things there.

i appreciate all of this well that's all right

Nixon, Casey & Cavanaugh on People's Republic of China and Acupuncture

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