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Conversation: 106-003

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Start Date: 7-Sep-1972 8:04 AM

End Date: 7-Sep-1972 10:18 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Agnew, Spiro T. (Vice President)Scott, HughGriffin, Robert P.Allott, Gordon L.Dominick, Peter H.Cotton, NorrisFord, Gerald R.Arends, Leslie C.Rhodes, John J.Devine, Samuel L.Wilson, Robert C. ("Bob")Conable, Barber B., Jr.Dole, Robert J.MacGregor, ClarkEhrlichman, John D.Dent, Harry S.Timmons, William E.Klein, Herbert G.Buchanan, Patrick J.Ziegler, Ronald L.Harlow, Bryce N.Korologos, Thomas C.Cook, Richard K.Weinberger, Caspar W. ("Cap")Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Cabinet Room

106a.mp3

106b.mp3

106c.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, and Republican Congressional leaders, including Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Gordon L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Norris Cotton, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John J. Rhodes, Samuel L. Devine, Robert C. ("Bob") Wilson, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Robert J. Dole, Clark MacGregor, John D. Ehrlichman, Harry S. Dent, William E. Timmons, Herbert G. Klein, Patrick J. Buchanan, Ronald L. Ziegler, Bryce N. Harlow, Thomas C. Korologos, Richard K. Cook, and Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger. Manolo Sanchez also entered., met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 8:04 am and 10:18 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 106-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 106-3

Date: September 7, 1972
Time: 8:04 am - unknown before 10:18 am
Location: Cabinet Room

The President met with Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Gordon
L. Allott, Peter H. Dominick, Norris Cotton, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John J. Rhodes,
Samuel L. Devine, Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Robert J. Dole, Clark
MacGregor, John D. Ehrlichman, Harry S. Dent, William E. Timmons, Herbert G. Klein, Patrick
J. Buchanan, Ronald L. Ziegler, Bryce N. Harlow, Thomas C. Korologos, Richard K. Cook, and
Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger


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    Pending legislation
         -Ford
         -Scott
         -Status


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    Congress’ schedule
        -Bipartisan leadership meetings
              -Timing
        -Scott’s conversation with Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield, September 6
              -Quorum
        -House of Representatives
        -Ford’s conversation with Carl B. Albert, September 6
              -Albert’s schedule
        -Pending legislation
              -Revenue sharing
              -Military appropriations
              -Foreign aid
              -House Resolution [HR] 1
              -Busing
              -Revenue sharing
                    -Mansfield amendment
                    -Robert A. Taft, Jr. amendment
                    -Ford’s conversation with Wilbur D. Mills
                    -Scott’s meetings with Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson and J. William
                          Fulbright
              -HR 1 [Welfare Reform]
                    -Prospects
                    -George S. McGovern’s plan
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                   -President’s conversation with Manolo Sanchez
                         -Income level
              -Foreign Aid bill
                   -Edward W. Brooke amendment
                         -Adlai E. Stevenson, III and Marlow W. Cook
                   -John C. Stennis
              -Vesting of pensions
                   -Views of businessmen
                   -Union leaders
                   -Arthur F. Burns’ comment
                   -Studebaker
                   -Prospects in Senate
                   -Union members
                   -Harrison A. Williams, Jr.’s labor subcommittee
                   -McGovern
              -Busing
                   -Justice Lewis F. Powell, Jr.’s decision on parochial schools
                   -Need for constitutional amendment
                   -Powell’s wife
                   -Powell’s granddaughter
                         -Private school
              -Revenue sharing
                   -Meeting in Colorado
                   -House bill


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    Congress’ schedule
        -Ford
              -Pending legislation
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            -Department of Labor and Department of Health, Education, and Welfare
                  [HEW] appropriations bill
                  -Ford’s conversation with Robert H. Michel
            -Defense
                  -Rhodes
            -Military construction
            -Foreign aid
                  -Otto E. Passman’s conversation with Ford, September 6
      -House and Senate
      -Daniel J. Flood’s health
      -Warren G. (“Maggie”) Magnuson
            -Viewpoint
            -Previously vetoed bill
            -Social services
                  -Ceiling
                  -Charles H. Wilson, Devine
      -Labor-HEW appropriations
            -Unknown man’s conversation with George H. Mahon
            -Magnuson
            -Alan Cranston
      -Social services
            -Basis of apportionment
      -Water Pollution and Water Quality Act
            -Provisions of compromise bill
-Interstate Commerce Commission [ICC] nominations
      -Cotton’s efforts
      -Magnuson
      -Cotton’s conversation with Magnuson
            -[Forename unknown] Curtis of Missouri
-Debt limitation increase
      -Mills’ views regarding budget limit
            -McGovern
            -Mahon
-Budget limitation
      -Mills
            -Meeting with George P. Shultz, September 7
      -House rules
      -Mills
            -Meeting with Shultz
-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] authorization
      -Provisions
      -Possible veto
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         -Water bill
              -Status
              -Provisions
              -Agnew
              -Budget ceiling
         -Budget ceiling
              -Mills
              -Mahon
              -The President’s possible conversation with Mahon
              -Prospects
              -Debt ceiling limit
         -Debt ceiling limit
              -Continuing resolution
              -Possible vote
                     -The President’s experience as Vice President
         -Budget ceiling
              -Mahon’s view
         -Postcard registration of voters


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    Vietnam
         -Draftees
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     Busing
          -Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
          -Dr. David J. Armor
               -Study of busing
               -Harvard University
          -Armor’s study

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 8:04 am

     Buchanan’s location
         -President’s request

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 10:18 am

     Busing
          -James S. Coleman
               -Report
          -Effect
          -Christian Jencks’ study
          -Washington Post story, September 7
          -Armor
               -Study
               -Harvard University action
                      -Derek C. Bok

     Pending legislation
          -Equal educational opportunities
               -Unknown man’s forthcoming conversation with Williams
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     Pending legislation
          -Brooke amendment

Arends and Wilson left at an unknown time before 10:18 am


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     Scheduling

     Tax reform
          -Administration’s position
          -Timing of administration’s proposals
          -Spending ceiling
          -Agnew
          -Job creation
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     The President’s legislative program

     Pending legislation
          -Consumer Protection Bill
          -Railroads
          -Education tax credits
                -Mills
                -Terence Cardinal Cook
                -Possible Senate action
          -Tax bill

     [General conversation/Unintelligible]

Recording was cut off at an unknown time before 10:18 am