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Conversation: 487-002

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Start Date: 23-Apr-1971 10:12 AM

End Date: 23-Apr-1971 10:34 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Flemming, Arthur S.Martin, John B.Richardson, Elliot L.Garment, Leonard

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:50:54

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:13:22

487-002.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Arthur S. Flemming, John B. Martin, Elliot L. Richardson, and Leonard Garment met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:12 am to 10:34 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 487-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 487-2

Date: April 23, 1971
Time: 10:12 am - 10:34 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Arthur S. Fleming, John B. Martin, Elliot L. Richardson, and Leonard
Garment.

[The White House photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning of the
meeting.]

     Greetings

     Fleming's role

     Photograph
          -Seating arrangement

     School desegregation
         -Mobile, Alabama

     Photograph
          -Seating

     [Camera noise]
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[General conversation]

Henry A. Kissinger's schedule
    -Woodstock conference

[Camera noise]

[General conversation]                                   Conv. No. 487-2 (cont.)

White House Conference on Aging
     -Richardson's schedule
           -Cabinet
                 -George W. Romney and John A. Volpe
     -Interest
           -Administration efforts
     -Programs on aging
     -Undercurrents of criticism
     -Administration concerns
     -Recommendations
     -Timing
           -National conference
                 -November 29 - December 2, 1971
           -State conferences
                 -May 1971
           -Attendance
                 -Numbers
                 -Delegates
           -Selection of participants
                 -Process
                 -Governors
                 -1961 conference
           -1961 conference
                 -Timing
                 -Fleming's speech
                 -Fleming's role
           -Fleming
           -Participating organizations
                 -Number
           -Appointments
           -1960 campaign
                 -Issues
                       -Aging
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      -Timing
-Economy
      -Consumer price index
            -Quarter
            -Outlook
-Economic issues
      -Social Security benefits
      -Problem                                       Conv. No. 487-2 (cont.)
-Political considerations
      -Administration's constituency
-Youth culture
-Care
      -President’s view
-Money
-Administration concerns
-Contributions of older people
-Quality of life
      -Older people
-Youth
-Respect for age
-People's Republic of China [PRC]
      -Respect for age
      -Indians
      -Asia
      -Respect for age
      -Government
      -Achievements
      -Chinese race
      -Respect for age
      -Communism
      -Red Guard
      -Respect for older people
-Young people
      -Attitude towards grandparents
            -Tolerance
-Sun Cities
-Leisure World, California
-Housing of elderly
      -Dutch
            -Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan's figures
            -Mixed uses
-Quality of life
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         -Activists
         -Concerns
         -Older people
               -Number
               -Growth
               -Unknown editors in New York
                     -Daily Oklahoman
         -Span of life                                       Conv. No. 487-2 (cont.)
         -Older population
               -Growth
               -Birth control
               -Future
               -Europe
               -Latin America
                     -Youth population
                     -US
                          -Birth control
         -Rest homes
               -Care
               -Loneliness


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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[Duration: 10s ]


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         -Youth
              -Visiting the elderly
         -Concern for elderly
              -President’s view
              -Minorities
         -Richardson's experience in law school
              -Visit to elderly men's home
         -Volunteer agencies
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         -President's schedule
               -Reception for volunteer agencies
                     -National Center for Voluntary Action [NCVA]
                     -Edwin D. Etherington
               -Etherington
                     -Background
                     -Voluntary action
               -Voluntary action                                    Conv. No. 487-2 (cont.)
                     -President’s instructions
                     -Older and retired people
                     -Need for volunteers


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 30s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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                    -Older persons
                    -Young people
                          -Visits to older people
                    -Etherington
         -Foster grandparents program
              -Agency transfer
              -Criticism of administration efforts
              -Congressional hearings
                    -Martin and Fleming
         -Fleming's activities
              -Public relations
         -Respect for elders
              -President’s position
              -Contributions to society
         -Elderly
              -Medicare
              -Old age housing
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                -Social Security
                -Contribution to society
          -Youth
                -Past societies
          -Administration leadership
                -Eisenhower administration
                      -President's and Fleming's activities
          -Purpose of conference                                Conv. No. 487-2 (cont.)
          -Press coverage
                -Importance
          -Direction of administration policy
          -Preliminaries
                -Possible agenda

     Presentation of gifts
          -Cufflinks
          -Tie pin
          -Presidential seal
          -Paper weight

     Fleming's role

     White House Conference on Aging
          -Need for publicity
          -Mrs. Fleming

Fleming, Martin, Richardson, and Garment left at 10:34 am.