Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 21 › Conversation 021-037

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on John N. Irwin II

Wednesday, March 8, 1972 · 1:58 PM–2:39 PM ET · White House Telephone · 10 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation021-037 on Tape 21 (tape position 01:19:36–01:19:46)StartWednesday, March 8, 1972 at 1:58 PMEndWednesday, March 8, 1972 at 2:39 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 021-037 ↗

President Nixon instructed the White House operator to place an outgoing call to Under Secretary of State John N. Irwin II. The primary purpose of this brief administrative exchange was to facilitate communication between the President and the State Department official. No further policy discussions or substantive developments occurred during this brief interaction.

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Please.
Would you get me Under Secretary Irwin, please?
Yes, sir.

On March 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:58 pm and 2:39 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 021-037 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 21-37

Date: March 9, 1972
Time: Unknown between 1:58 pm and 2:39 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

[See Conversation No. 322-37]

     Request for a call to John N. Irwin, II
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  • 321-021 2:15 PM · 27 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:15 pm to 2:45 pm.
  • 021-038 2:39 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John N. Irwin, II talked on the telephone from 2:39 pm to 2:40 pm.
  • 321-022 2:45 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:45 pm and 3:55 pm.
  • 321-023 2:45 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:45 pm and 3:55 pm.

Conversation 021-037, March 8, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/021-037 (accessed October 24, 2026).