Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 23 › Conversation 023-072

Nixon phone call with Bull on W. Kenneth Riland and White House logistics

Tuesday, April 25, 1972 · 4:23 PM–4:24 PM ET · White House Telephone · 20 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation023-072 on Tape 23StartTuesday, April 25, 1972 at 4:23 PMEndTuesday, April 25, 1972 at 4:24 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 023-072 ↗

President Nixon consulted with his aide Stephen B. Bull to confirm the logistics for an upcoming meeting with Dr. W. Kenneth Riland. The two agreed that the appointment would take place at 6:00 p.m. within the White House residence. This brief interaction served to finalize the venue and timing for the President’s evening schedule.

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Hello?
Mr. Bowles on the line, sir.
Yes, sir.
Steve, do we have Ryland today?
Yes, sir, at 6 o'clock.
That's fine, okay.
Do you want to see him in the house, I imagine, sir?
Yeah, I'll be over there.
All right, fine.
Yes, sir.
Thank you very much.

On April 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 4:23 pm to 4:24 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-072 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 23-72

Date: April 25, 1972
Time: 4:23-4:24 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

[See also Conversation No. 334-3]

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with W. Kenneth Riland
               -Place
  • 334-003 4:23 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:23 pm to 4:24 pm.
  • 023-073 4:24 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:24 pm and 4:26 pm.
  • 334-004 4:24 PM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:24 pm and 4:26 pm.
  • 334-005 4:24 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:24 pm and 4:26 pm.
  • 023-074 4:26 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 4:26 pm.
  • 334-006 4:26 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 4:26 pm.
  • 334-007 4:28 PM · 18 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Alexander P. Butterfield, Ronald L. Ziegler, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:28 pm to 4:55 pm.
  • 023-075 4:43 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 4:43 pm to 4:45 pm.

Conversation 023-072, April 25, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-072 (accessed October 12, 2026).