Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 30 › Conversation 030-040

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Personal communication

Monday, October 2, 1972 · 11:43 AM–11:44 AM ET · White House Telephone · 13 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation030-040 on Tape 30StartMonday, October 2, 1972 at 11:43 AMEndMonday, October 2, 1972 at 11:44 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 030-040 ↗

President Richard Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon engaged in a brief, private telephone conversation. The recording consists entirely of personal material and has been formally withdrawn from the public record. Consequently, no official policy or political matters were addressed in this exchange.

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On October 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 11:43 am to 11:44 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 030-040 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 30-40

Date: October 2, 1972
Time: 11:43 am - 11:44 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

[See Conversation No. 790-12]

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  • 790-008 11:20 AM · 21 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and William P. Rogers met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:20 am to 11:39 am.
  • 030-039 11:39 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:39 am and 11:43 am.
  • 790-009 11:39 AM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:39 am and 11:43 am.
  • 790-010 11:39 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:39 am and 11:43 am.
  • 790-011 11:39 AM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:39 am and 11:43 am.
  • 790-012 11:43 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:43 am to 11:44 am.
  • 790-013 11:44 AM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Alexander P. Butterfield, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:44 am to 12:04 pm.
  • 790-014 12:04 PM · 1 min — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:04 pm and 12:39 pm.

Conversation 030-040, October 2, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/030-040 (accessed October 1, 2026).