Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 31 › Conversation 031-079

Nixon phone call with Staszak on John Cardinal Krol and Poland

Monday, October 16, 1972 · 5:42 PM–5:44 PM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Staszak, Joseph J.Conversation031-079 on Tape 31StartMonday, October 16, 1972 at 5:42 PMEndMonday, October 16, 1972 at 5:44 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 031-079 ↗

President Nixon and Joseph J. Staszak engaged in a brief, cordial exchange regarding the diplomatic activities of John Cardinal Krol, specifically his ongoing visit to Poland. Staszak relayed greetings to Vice President Spiro Agnew, who was actively campaigning for the administration at the time. The conversation concluded with Nixon inviting Staszak to visit the White House in the future.

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Mr. President, have Senator Stasek from Baltimore.
Yeah.
President's on the line.
Hello?
Hello?
Incidentally, I don't know whether you noticed, but Cardinal Crowell is over at Pullen now.
Yes.
Went over to see the...
I sent a picture with him.
And I'm going to see the Cardinal when he gets back.
He's a great man, incidentally.
I don't know whether you know him, but Carl of Philadelphia is really a marvelous man.
Well, listen, Mr. President, say hello to my friend, also the ex-governor, Spiro Agnew.
Yeah, Spiro.
He's off campaigning, you know.
I've got to stick around here, and he does the work.
But I'll tell him that I talked to you, because I know he thinks a great deal of you.
Okay, good.
Thank you.
And when I'll be around Washington, I'll stop in to see you.
You do it.
I'd like to see you.
Thank you.
Bye.
Bye-bye.

On October 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Joseph J. Staszak talked on the telephone from 5:42 pm to 5:44 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 031-079 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 31-79

Date: October 16, 1972
Time: 5:42 pm - 5:44 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Joseph J. Staszak.

[See Conversation No. 800-5A]

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        John Cardinal Krol
            -Trip to Poland
            -The President’s view

        Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
            -Staszak's greetings
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Conversation 031-079, October 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/031-079 (accessed October 12, 2026).