Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 32 › Conversation 032-025

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Edwin M. Schwenk

Tuesday, October 24, 1972 · 4:04 PM–4:16 PM ET · White House Telephone · 16 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation032-025 on Tape 32StartTuesday, October 24, 1972 at 4:04 PMEndTuesday, October 24, 1972 at 4:16 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 032-025 ↗

President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to facilitate a communication with Edwin M. Schwenk. Upon learning that Schwenk was currently traveling and not expected to reach his office until 4:30 p.m., the President instructed the operator to have Schwenk return the call at that time. This brief exchange served as a routine administrative coordination for a follow-up conversation.

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Mrs. Swank is on the road, sir.
Expected at 4.30.
4.30?
About 20 minutes.
You can have him call me back.

On October 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 4:16 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 032-025 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 032-025

Date: October 24, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:04 pm and 4:16 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The White House operator talked with the President.

[See Conversation No. 373-20]

        Edwin M. Schwenk
           -Location
               -Return to office

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

                  -Return call
  • 032-024 4:02 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:02 pm and 4:04 pm.
  • 373-018 4:02 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:02 pm and 4:04 pm.
  • 373-019 4:04 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 4:16 pm.
  • 373-020 4:04 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 4:16 pm.
  • 373-021 4:04 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 4:16 pm.
  • 373-022 4:04 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 4:16 pm.
  • 373-023 4:04 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 4:16 pm.
  • 373-024 4:04 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 4:16 pm.

Conversation 032-025, October 24, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/032-025 (accessed October 12, 2026).