Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 132 › Conversation 132-014

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Camp David and Maintenance

Thursday, May 18, 1972 · 12:00 AM–11:49 PM ET · Camp David Study Table · 2 min

Participants[Unknown person(s)]Conversation132-014 on Tape 132 (tape position 00:10:55–00:13:05)StartThursday, May 18, 1972 at 12:00 AMEndTuesday, June 6, 1972 at 11:49 PMRecording deviceCamp David Study TableSourceNixon Library record for 132-014 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417175129 ↗

AI Summary

An unidentified man coordinates with an individual named Sam regarding the maintenance and physical layout of climate control equipment at Camp David. The discussion focuses on the replacement and positioning of thermostats and humidistats located throughout the residence. The participants deliberate on the feasibility of relocating these devices and agree to consult with Frank Thompson for further technical guidance.

Camp David
Maintenance
Thermostats
Humidistats
Facilities Management

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NARA Description

Unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 132-014 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 132-14

Date: Unknown between May 18, and June 6, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:00 am, May 18 and 11:49 pm, June 6
Location: Camp David Study Table

An unknown man talked with Sam [Surname unknown].

     Thermostats

     Humidistats
         -Replacement

     Thermostats

     [Forename unknown] Van Tassel [sp?]
          -Location

     Humidistats

     Return call

Transcript (AI-generated)

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Mr. Redwood.

Yes.

Oh, about time.

How are you doing, man?

We're okay.

We, uh, out here is, uh, a boxy little, um, dimly lit switch in the hall.

There's, uh, uh, heat and a cool thermostat there now.

You have two thermostats in the living room and a thermostat in the back, right?

Well, there's a thermostat in the living room, and then another thermostat just as you start coming down the hall.

And as well, if you replace the one coming down the hall, it just starts coming down the hall.

I'm going to check with Frank Thompson.

He's not right here.

All right.

I don't know if it's like anything out there or not.

I honestly don't know.

I think he would.

I want to move them all out, right?

Yeah, he wouldn't move them all out.

He wouldn't move them all out.

I'll tell you.

Also recorded on May 18, 1972

132-001 12:00 AM · 43 sec — Bill Beckman and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
132-002 12:00 AM · 47 sec — Bill Beckman and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
132-003 12:00 AM · 1 min — Bill Beckman and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
132-004 12:00 AM · 39 sec — Unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
132-005 12:00 AM · 47 sec — Bill Beckman and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
132-006 12:00 AM · 52 sec — Bill Beckman and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
132-007 12:00 AM · 2 min — Bill Beckman and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.
132-008 12:00 AM · 37 sec — Bill Beckman and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 132-014, May 18, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417175129). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/132-014 (accessed November 2, 2026).