Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 208 › Conversation 208-005

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Personal conversation

Friday, September 8, 1972 · 6:03 PM–2:26 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 13 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation208-005 on Tape 208StartFriday, September 8, 1972 at 6:03 PMEndSunday, September 10, 1972 at 2:26 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 208-005 ↗

First Lady Pat Nixon and her daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, met informally at the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David. Given the lack of a transcript and the classification of the audio as a personal recording, the discussion focused on private family matters rather than official presidential business. No substantive policy developments or administrative actions resulted from this interaction.

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Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 6:03 pm on September 8, 1972 and 2:26 pm on September 10, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 208-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 208-5

Date: Unknown between September 8 and 10, 1972
Time: Unknown between 6:03 pm, September 8 and 2:26 pm, September 10, 1972
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon met with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

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Mrs. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower at an unknown time before 2:26 pm, September 10,
1972.
  • 177-001 6:03 PM · 6 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 6:03 pm on September 8, 1972 and 2:26 pm on September 10, 1972.
  • 177-002 6:03 PM · 23 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 6:03 pm on September 8, 1972 and 2:26 pm on September 10, 1972.
  • 177-003 6:03 PM · 14 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and Lawrence M. Higby talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 6:03 pm on September 8, 1972 and 2:26 pm on September 10, 1972.
  • 208-001 6:03 PM · 14 sec — Unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 6:03 pm on September 8, 1972 and 2:26 pm on September 10, 1972.
  • 208-002 6:03 PM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 6:03 pm on September 8, 1972 and 2:26 pm on September 10, 1972.
  • 208-003 6:03 PM · 13 sec — Unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 6:03 pm on September 8, 1972 and 2:26 pm on September 10, 1972.
  • 208-004 6:03 PM · 13 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 6:03 pm on September 8, 1972 and 2:26 pm on September 10, 1972.
  • 208-006 6:03 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 6:03 pm on September 8, 1972 and 2:26 pm on September 10, 1972.

Conversation 208-005, September 8, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/208-005 (accessed October 9, 2026).