Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 211 › Conversation 211-019

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Campaigning and States

Sunday, September 17, 1972 · 1:00 PM–1:25 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 4 min

ParticipantsEisenhower, Julie Nixon; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation211-019 on Tape 211StartSunday, September 17, 1972 at 1:00 PMEndSunday, September 17, 1972 at 1:25 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 211-019 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 648453190 ↗

AI Summary

This recording captures a brief, largely unintelligible conversation between Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Pat Nixon at Camp David, with mentions of states like New Mexico, South Dakota, and Montana, likely related to political campaigning.

  • Campaigning
  • States
  • New Mexico
  • South Dakota
  • Montana

Audio

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This clip of the conversation was cut from the tape by the National Archives (catalog record ↗).

NARA Description

On September 17, 1972, Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:00 pm and 1:25 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 211-019 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 211-19

Date: September 17, 1972
Time: Unknown between 1:00 and 1:25 p.m.
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Julie Nixon Eisenhower met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 1:25 pm.

Transcript (AI-generated)

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Eisenhower[unintelligible] Mexico [crosstalk] and Nevada? [unintelligible]
NixonNew Mexico. Right, good.
UnknownNew Mexico, South Dakota. I've given all these good--
EisenhowerGood. Okay.
UnknownSouth Dakota is easy, Montana is easy, New Mexico is easy.
EisenhowerGood.
UnknownWe'll win Oklahoma, Arkansas, of course we'll win. Tennessee [unintelligible] North Carolina.
EisenhowerNow with South Dakota, [unintelligible]
Unknown[unintelligible] Montana, South Dakota.
UnknownTwenty-thirty.
EisenhowerDon't worry, [unintelligible]

Also recorded on September 17, 1972

  • 143-005 11:28 AM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:28 am and 11:30 am.
  • 143-007 11:30 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Lt. Col. William L. Golden talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:30 am to 11:31 am.
  • 211-018 11:30 AM · 58 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Lt. Col. William L. Golden met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 11:30 am to 11:31 am.
  • 143-008 1:25 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:25 pm and 1:53 pm.
  • 211-020 1:25 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:25 pm and 1:53 pm.
  • 211-021 1:25 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:25 pm and 1:53 pm.
  • 143-009 1:53 PM · 29 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 1:53 pm to 2:22 pm.
  • 211-022 1:53 PM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 1:53 pm to 2:22 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 211-019, September 17, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 648453190). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/211-019 (accessed November 2, 2026).