Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 213 › Conversation 213-013

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Family affairs

Sunday, September 24, 1972 · 12:00 AM–10:03 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 13 sec

ParticipantsEisenhower, Julie Nixon; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation213-013 on Tape 213StartSunday, September 24, 1972 at 12:00 AMEndSunday, September 24, 1972 at 10:03 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 213-013 ↗

AI Summary

Julie Nixon Eisenhower and First Lady Pat Nixon met privately at the Aspen Lodge at Camp David to discuss personal family matters. The brief interaction concluded with both individuals departing the lodge before mid-morning. Due to the withdrawal of segments for privacy, the specific substantive details of their conversation remain unavailable for historical review.

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NARA Description

On September 24, 1972, Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:03 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 213-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 213-13

Date: September 24, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:00 am and 10:03 am

Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Julie Nixon Eisenhower met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 10:03 am.

Also recorded on September 24, 1972

  • 213-012 10:00 PM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:00 pm and 11:00 pm.
  • 213-014 12:00 AM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:03 am.
  • 154-006 10:03 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:03 am and 11:37 am.
  • 213-015 10:03 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:03 am and 11:37 am.
  • 154-007 11:37 AM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:37 am to 11:52 am.
  • 213-016 11:37 AM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 11:37 am to 11:52 am.
  • 154-008 11:52 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:52 am and 11:56 am.
  • 213-017 11:52 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:52 am and 11:56 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 213-013, September 24, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/213-013 (accessed October 12, 2026).