Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 213 › Conversation 213-014

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Family and Camp David

Sunday, September 24, 1972 · 12:00 AM–10:03 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 13 sec

ParticipantsEisenhower, Julie Nixon; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation213-014 on Tape 213StartSunday, September 24, 1972 at 12:00 AMEndSunday, September 24, 1972 at 10:03 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 213-014 ↗

Julie Nixon Eisenhower and First Lady Pat Nixon met at Camp David to discuss personal family matters. The recording consists entirely of a withdrawn segment classified as personal, indicating that no official policy or administrative decisions were documented during the interaction. The brief nature of the exchange suggests it served as a private family conversation between mother and daughter.

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On September 24, 1972, Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:03 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 213-014 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 213-14

Date: September 24, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:00 am and 10:03 am
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Julie Nixon Eisenhower met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 6m 12s     ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Mrs. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 10:03 am.
  • 213-012 10:00 PM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:00 pm and 11:00 pm.
  • 213-013 12:00 AM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:03 am.
  • 154-006 10:03 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:03 am and 11:37 am.
  • 213-015 10:03 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:03 am and 11:37 am.
  • 154-007 11:37 AM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:37 am to 11:52 am.
  • 213-016 11:37 AM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 11:37 am to 11:52 am.
  • 154-008 11:52 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:52 am and 11:56 am.
  • 213-017 11:52 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:52 am and 11:56 am.

Conversation 213-014, September 24, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/213-014 (accessed October 12, 2026).