Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 213 › Conversation 213-012

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Camp David and Personal affairs

Saturday, September 23, 1972 · 10:00 PM–11:00 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 13 sec

ParticipantsEisenhower, Julie Nixon; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation213-012 on Tape 213StartSaturday, September 23, 1972 at 10:00 PMEndSaturday, September 23, 1972 at 11:00 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 213-012 ↗

AI Summary

Julie Nixon Eisenhower and First Lady Pat Nixon met privately at Camp David for a conversation lasting over twenty-six minutes. The discussion occurred within the informal setting of the Aspen Lodge study, though the specific content remains classified as personal and sensitive information. No formal administrative decisions or political actions were recorded as a result of this private engagement.

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NARA Description

On September 23, 1972, Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:00 pm and 11:00 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 213-012 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 213-12

Date: September 23, 1972
Time: Unknown between 10:00 pm and 11:00 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Julie Nixon Eisenhower met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 26m 43s    ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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Mrs. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 11:00 pm.

Also recorded on September 24, 1972

  • 213-013 12:00 AM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:03 am.
  • 213-014 12:00 AM · 13 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:03 am.
  • 154-006 10:03 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:03 am and 11:37 am.
  • 213-015 10:03 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:03 am and 11:37 am.
  • 154-007 11:37 AM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:37 am to 11:52 am.
  • 213-016 11:37 AM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 11:37 am to 11:52 am.
  • 154-008 11:52 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:52 am and 11:56 am.
  • 213-017 11:52 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:52 am and 11:56 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 213-012, September 24, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/213-012 (accessed October 12, 2026).